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  • #21
    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
    Curtis Stevens throttled GGG half way through the ring with a counter offensive from the ropes, and as others stated, Stevens is short.
    A couple of moments of success?

    Stevens tried to push him back throughout the fight and failed miserably. He got his ass beat, dropped and stopped.

    Lemieux had no success coming forward. Murray couldn't move forward.

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    • #22
      Golovkin is so good that people find times when he gets hit by one or 2 punches (which never even bother him) as a way to say he has a certain weakness.

      Golovkin won every single round of his fights with Lemieux and Stevens. His footwork is excellent and his punches are extremely powerful which means it would be very difficult to get him to retreat much anyway. When you watch him live it appears like he is swimming in the ring because of how efficient his footwork is.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
        Curtis Stevens throttled GGG half way through the ring with a counter offensive from the ropes, and as others stated, Stevens is short.
        Oh yeah and how many times was stevens able to do this? Those were desperate attempts to fend GGG off from him and took a lot of energy.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
          A couple of moments of success?

          Stevens tried to push him back throughout the fight and failed miserably. He got his ass beat, dropped and stopped.

          Lemieux had no success coming forward. Murray couldn't move forward.
          Pay no attention to SKH. He doesn't even realize that GGG is a counter puncher.

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          • #25


            This is what golovkin needs to do.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
              Those are the fights I want to see.....GGG vs Lee and Quillin....neither guy are featherfisted liked Monroe or Geale and they don't just come forward like Stevens and Lemieux.....they are a lil more versatile in their approach and skillset

              Lee is a good counterpuncher and surprisingly good inside for a lengthy fella

              Quillen reminds me of Jermain Taylor but he isn't quite as fast as Taylor but he is more powerful....He'd be a good opponent for GGG


              That counter right hook from Andy is a thing of beauty and I doubt any middleweight is gonna "let" Lee land it
              This is what I had stated months back. I am more than sure K2 and Sanchez or even GGG have backed off from the best Southpaws. The first Southpaws GGG faced gave him a hard time. K2 nor Sanchez ever ran their mouth about reorganizing the Lee bout, I doubt that bout was ever really orchestrated. Korobov and Lee are some serious Southpaws at 160. It'd make more sense to see Sanchez run his mouth about GGG wanting the best 160 Southpaws instead of saying that a ranked 18th 6-KO artist Monroe Jr. Is the ideal candidate to prove adversity... Was it Ouma GGG had trouble with? I forgot.

              Anyhow, Quillin almost finished Lee in the 1st round alone, Quillin was the dumbest to not finish Lee. Even Rosado said Quillin has serious heavy hands when the question was about power vs GGG. I want to see GGG handle power from the elite now in line wanting those belts. Rubio, Geale, Lemieux...don't hit as hard as Quillin's straight right. Quillin is an accurate puncher.

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              • #27
                Quillin will never step foot in a ring with GGG unless the $$$ is good enough to retire. He got smoked in sparring, and already knows he can't handle Golovkin.

                Andy Lee, on the other hand, was destroyed twice? by Golovkin in the amateurs and may be itching for revenge. Of course, I don't think Lee stands a chance, but at least he seems willing to take that fight. I hope he beats Saunders and goes on to fight Golovkin.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by sicko View Post
                  Yeah but it is only one problem, how in the hell are you going to get him to go backwards?

                  Because he won't backup I do think the best way to beat him is with a good inside game, something that was working well for Monroe when he stopped backing up and got inside with GGG

                  People want GGG to be considered a Brawler so bad but he is NOT anything close to a Brawler, he is a Boxer/Puncher. His Footwork is extremely underrated, just because he is not skipping and doing the fancy Ali stuff doesn't make him "Flat Footed". He has quick feet and he keeps them in position to get off with Power quickly.

                  Also I think even Lemieux was talking about how "Slow" GGG was leading up to that fight. But GGG looked faster and more athletic than Lemieux which I don't think many people thought would be the case. That jab, was very quick and he was able to land it on Lemieux anytime he wanted.

                  Oscar thing he has the blue print for GGG also? Well Oscar needs to understand that these new generation of fighters are not as good or as talented or as skilled as he was!

                  I thought he said that Him and B-Hop gave Lemieux tips, well nobody told him to not just eat jabs all night
                  I saw the fight. It wasnt the fireworks both sides were claiming it to be ala "Mexican style" for whatever K2 thinks that is. What we saw was a timed and patient GGG, the same GGG against an upcoming 154 Rosado and a small Stevens. That's where his jab really shined before K2 ran with their Mexican gimmick.

                  Better fights to come at 160. Yall will see. More belts are on the line.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                    This is what I had stated months back. I am more than sure K2 and Sanchez or even GGG have backed off from the best Southpaws. The first Southpaws GGG faced gave him a hard time. K2 nor Sanchez ever ran their mouth about reorganizing the Lee bout, I doubt that bout was ever really orchestrated. Korobov and Lee are some serious Southpaws at 160. It'd make more sense to see Sanchez run his mouth about GGG wanting the best 160 Southpaws instead of saying that a ranked 18th 6-KO artist Monroe Jr. Is the ideal candidate to prove adversity... Was it Ouma GGG had trouble with? I forgot.

                    Anyhow, Quillin almost finished Lee in the 1st round alone, Quillin was the dumbest to not finish Lee. Even Rosado said Quillin has serious heavy hands when the question was about power vs GGG. I want to see GGG handle power from the elite now in line wanting those belts. Rubio, Geale, Lemieux...don't hit as hard as Quillin's straight right. Quillin is an accurate puncher.
                    it was Ouma.....Ouma took a shellacking but his jab and ability to punch with GGG and push him back had GGG struggling...it did bring the best out of him


                    Ouma was past it by then

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                    • #30
                      Lemieux didn't really expose any flaws in GGG, he didn't have a lot of success and GGG dominated from round one, he didn't really push him back much so there wasn't a lot to go off.

                      Golovkin is a pressure fighter so its more than likely he's a lot less effective on the back foot, the trouble is backing him up, he's very strong and cuts off the ring very well, closes and controls his distance very well, those attributes mixed with the fact he hits very hard and has a very good chin makes it hard for any fighter to impose those tactics on him successfully.

                      I can't see him ever being beat by a guy who decides to mix it up with him, if he loses to anyone it will have to be someone who is the hit and move type, who is also strong enough to keep him at bay.

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