Comments Thread For: Lemieux's Trainer Slams Ref For Not Penalizing Golovkin

[GTTofAK]

That was unfortunate. The ref should have taken a point away from GGG but it would not have mattered. If Lemieux was a opportunist he should have acted really hurt and GGG would have been DQ'd.

There is no flopping in boxing. If the ref thinks that you should be continue after a foul and you insist you cant then you lose.

[job43]

Definitively a point should have been taken away. It doesn't matter if it was unintentional. It doesn't matter if it did not affect the outcome of the fight. Of course a point should have been taken.

[KTFO]

Knockdown or not, Lemieux should have been given up to 5 minutes due to the foul and it warranted a point deduction from GGG. That being said, this had no effect on the outcome. Lemmy was outclassed from the opening bell, GGG proved superior.

[Superbee]

Breaking the rules has nothing to do with the turnout... Golovkin threw a hard punch to a guy on his knee who was not defending himself because he was waiting for the ref to interfere, do his job and count... It's that simple...

Any way you put it it was not fair for the other boxer, Lemieux or anyone else... More time to recover, a point deduction, anything may have change the fight from there... GGG knew very well what just happened... I mean just look at his guilty face right after the punch...

[aboutfkntime]

Golovkin will carry that stain for a long time... He had all the time to back off from connecting and didn't... Giving David some more time would have definitely help because even after being beat up fair and square he was connecting more as the fight went on... Not really a fight changer but who knows what would have happened to GGG after a point deduction and some recover time...It's all in the head after all...

It will be forgotten by the time he announces his next opponent.

It wouldn't have made a difference, but a point off and time to recover would have been better for both fighters and boxing in general. If Lemiux stays down he could have gotten a nc at least and a chance at another nice paycheck.

Exactly.

No either the fighter who fouled is disqualified or you get 5 minutes to recover and if you do not continue you lose by abandonment.

A foul is not a get out of jail free card. The rules are already written to protect against such abuse. This isn't soccer you cant flop.

Good call, but a point deduction and time to recover is fair.

[aboutfkntime]

Breaking the rules has nothing to do with the turnout... Golovkin threw a hard punch to a guy on his knee who was not defending himself because he was waiting for the ref to interfere, do his job and count... It's that simple...

Any way you put it it was not fair for the other boxer, Lemieux or anyone else... More time to recover, a point deduction, anything may have change the fight from there... GGG knew very well what just happened... I mean just look at his guilty face right after the punch...

I cant argue with that, but a DQ is the only other alternative, and that should only be considered as a very last resort. Not required at all in that fight imho.

A DQ is a stain on the sport, a failed event basically. To qualify the offense would have to be either ..... very blatant and damaging, a repeated offense, or a repeated problem..... none of which are the case.

A point deduction and 5 mins recovery are whats up.

[Joe Beamish]

I like all this. It feeds the image. Golovkin is a killing machine in the ring. Methodical mayhem.

I honestly think he was so deep into fighting mode that he did not notice Lemieux taking the knee. It was unexpected.

A delayed reaction. Frightening because the man really doesn't see the humanity in his opponent. First he sees an enemy force to be dismantled one step at a time with no break in the proceedings for knees or quitting. Only death matters. Pain and weakness are irrelevant.

[Contra]

I feel like Lemieux's trainer is just being opportunistic here and trying to make excuses and soften the blow of his guy getting worked. And GGG detractors are jumping on the wagon just to have something to criticize him about. Dude's one of the cleanest, most respectful boxers I've ever seen.

I saw it happen in person, I saw it on the slo-mo replay on the big screen, and I've watched the russian broadcast of the fight several times over the last couple of days. It looked like Lemieux was backing off because he was hurt, Gennady moved in to throw a punch, David appeared to try to duck the shot he knew was coming, Gennady saw this and threw the punch at a lower level, and Lemieux's knee hit the canvas just before the punch landed. This all happened over the course of a single second. Accidental foul if I've ever seen one. He didn't deserve to lose a point for it.

And a DQ? Gtfoh. There would've been a riot in that fúckin place.

But I have to give David respect. There was a moment when he could've flopped around on the ground Broner-style and refused to continue, but he didn't. You could almost see him mentally make the decision to get up and fight on. Props to him for that display of testicular fortitude.