ye he overated. why is it always the espn boxers
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I dont know man. I think the difference between me and you on this is that you think Baldomire beat Zab and I just think Zab beat himself because he's not focused and he bull ****s around in some fights. You make it sound like Baldomire is better when I think it clearly isnt true.Originally posted by Mech.I give Zab credit for what he did,but I wouldnt give him more than 4 rounds.The thing about Zab is:
he's a lefty
hes gifted with speed
hes gifted with power
and he still loses to baldomir.To me Zab is the definition of hype.Yes he's looked good against lesser opposition,but how many fighters wouldnt?.About the best I can say about Zab is that he KO'ed spinks the second time around, but even Mayorga who i saw you ripping on(not that I like mayo),Ko'ed forrest right?
So to answer your question do I think Zab would beat many other fighters out there,for example Margarito,by fighting the way he fought those 3,4 rounds? I can see Zab hurting some guys,maybe wobbling some guys early on,but these arent 3-4 rounders, if Baldomir can rock zab simply by making it to the later rounds and not being discouraged,Margarito would destroy Zab man.Cotto can move up now and KO Zab,even IF Zab hurt cotto all cotto would have to do is make it out of those early rounds and start walking Zab down.
I think larry merch said it best on fight night when he said, Zab has a style that depends on his athletic ability,If you can overcome some of that,like baldomir was able to by just having seemingly a concrete chin,you can get to zab.
Basically Im saying that I think you put too much stock in that fight. To me it had nothing to do with Baldomire and all to do with Zab so I dont think its fair to say that Margarito can do that to him just because Baldomire can. 1st off I think if you are somewhat a elite fighter like Margarito is supposed to be then Zab wont B.S. around. I think if Zab and Baldomire fights 10 times then Zab will win 9 times by a blow out.Comment
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Even if people believe that Margarito is overrated, I think that he still deserves his shot at PBF. Even if it means him losingComment
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Nah I dont think Bladomir is better,All I was saying is,no way in hell should a guy of Zab's supposed elite status lose to a guy like baldomir.And be made to look that bad really.And its not just that fight,when its counted I dont think Zab has ever really impressed,the way a top fighter should.Originally posted by DLTI dont know man. I think the difference between me and you on this is that you think Baldomire beat Zab and I just think Zab beat himself because he's not focused and he bull ****s around in some fights. You make it sound like Baldomire is better when I think it clearly isnt true.
Basically Im saying that I think you put too much stock in that fight. To me it had nothing to do with Baldomire and all to do with Zab so I dont think its fair to say that Margarito can do that to him just because Baldomire can. 1st off I think if you are somewhat a elite fighter like Margarito is supposed to be then Zab wont B.S. around. I think if Zab and Baldomire fights 10 times then Zab will win 9 times by a blow out.
KO 2 vs Tszyu
UD L to spinks the first time
and SD wins against chop and Rafael Pineda.Basicaly Zab is the new gatekeeper.
The Margarito fight,when you say Zab shows up against elite fighters,has he really? I think he's failed to do so almost every time,It shouldnt take a second time to do what he should have done the first time against spinks.Comment
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I actually thought he won the 1st fight and alot of people didnt give him that one round just because he turned his back on Spinks and started talking trash but I still thought he won that round.Originally posted by Mech.Nah I dont think Bladomir is better,All I was saying is,no way in hell should a guy of Zab's supposed elite status lose to a guy like baldomir.And be made to look that bad really.And its not just that fight,when its counted I dont think Zab has ever really impressed,the way a top fighter should.
KO 2 vs Tszyu
UD L to spinks the first time
and SD wins against chop and Rafael Pineda.Basicaly Zab is the new gatekeeper.
The Margarito fight,when you say Zab shows up against elite fighters,has he really? I think he's failed to do so almost every time,It shouldnt take a second time to do what he should have done the first time against spinks.
At the end of the day I think we are basically saying the same thing but just a littile different. I agree that Judah has done less with so much talent then anyone I can remember. I took you as calling him just hype by meaning that he just isnt good but what I think you really mean is that he is really good and has never done anything with it and I completely agree with that.
I have always thought that he actually needed to leave his dad and posse for a while and go with someone like Roach or Goosen who could fine tune him and make him concentrate and fight for every minute of every round.
I still would love to see Zab vs Margarito if the Floyd fight doesnt go throughComment
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you could write how good floyd and zab are all you want but at the end of the day they will not fight Margarito because of fear....and don't say it's because the money because zab fought baldimir for peanuts and floyd fought an old sharmba mitchell for very little money...until zab and floyd put their asses on the ring against Margarito ..they are still pretenders....Comment
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I think its extreemly debatable that Margarito would beat Hatton. I don't believe his achievements warrant such a claimOriginally posted by moy22487he is not unbeaten. but he has improved. out of anybody out there this guy is the hardest fight for mayweather and thats why people want to see this fight. he has some good skill. he can beat many front runners who other people are asking to figh PBF. Cotto, Hatton and zab will get beat by margarito, he has skill but just not a big name. Margarito can also give de la hoya some trooble.
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thats because he is avoided. if the big names would give him a chance then we can see what he has. Hatton has a big name so thats why he is getting so many offers. margarito is just anothe mexican so they are not to concern with him. these 2 should fight winner goes after floyd.Originally posted by elgaringoI think its extreemly debatable that Margarito would beat Hatton. I don't believe his achievements warrant such a claim
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