A question for Andre Ward fans

[Real King Kong]

He did not demand it..Dawson requested it live on HBO

Yea...cuz dawson preferred to fight at 168. Could have been he did that to make the fight happen.

[-PBP-]

When you have dream matchups like this all you can ask for is that both fighters are healthy. Ward clearly can't make 160 comfortably so that would signal to me that he is trying to front for his fans and has no real interest in fighting Ward.

It would also tell me that he believes "Ward is too big and too good and I cannot beat the best version of Andre Ward."

Even though I kind of get that signal from his team and some of his fans already.

[The Hammer]

The contracts were already signed..and Dawson also wanted to drop to 168 to enter the Super 6

We need to consider that poor Chad is simple-minded.

HBO people especially the heartless Max Kellerman were leading him the wrong way.

Princess Ward is a cunning and selfish prima donna diva.

And keep in mind Ward's manager is James Prince, who had his henchmen beat up poor old Leonard Ellerbe in a vicious gay-bashing.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Ward doesn't need to balance any "boxing karma" because Dawson and his team bit off more then they could chew dropping down to '68 to fight him.

168 or kick rocks.

[-Kev-]

That it was a b*tch move on Golovkin's part and Ward shouldn't do it.

And yes, before you ask, I don't like that Ward wanted Dawson at 168. I know what Dawson said in the heat of the moment after the Hopkins fight, but when it came time to negotiate he didn't want to go down to 168. I don't give Ward much credit for that win. Dawson was clearly a zombie.

I'm a big Chad Dawson fan, I even have a Everlast Team Dawson track jacket I received as a gift from John Scully. But Ward immediately agreed to Dawson's HBO call out, and when you agree to seomthing like that and then the fighter want to negotiate something else it's pretty annoying. I think Ward was in the right here, and I really am a Dawson fan, I am very sad with the way his career has fallen. But Ward did nothing wrong there.

[rambov]

Yes it was a very foolish move by Chad. And I am a fan of his as well.

But that's boxing .... the game of fighting at the lowest weight possible while keeping strength and power.

[bluebeam]

Fighters don't move down in weight. They move up.

Oscar de la hoya
Chad dawson

2 recent examples of what moving down in weight does to your body.

168 or no fight. And that goes for any super middleweight vs a Middleweight.

The middleweight moves up. That's the way boxing has worked for decades.

[Nay_Sayer]

Yes, but he dropped Ward pretty easily with a simple uppercut.

Golovkin is much much better and hits harder too

Lol.

When is the last time the Triple Duck one punch KO'ed a true 168lb fighter?

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

I agree for the most part...more so if ward was active. I just remember him refusing to move up for dawson yet expects ggg to move up for him.

dawson asked to go down in weight bro ward didn't refuse anything

[j0zef]

This thread is completely wrong. The fight was offered at 164, not 160.
Ward outgrew 168, and making 164 would be tough for him, so he refused. GGG would have had a helluva hard time coming up to 168 after fighting at 160 for 15 years, so he refused 168. Thus no fight.