Comments Thread For: Tim Bradley: Best Pound For Pound is Ward or Pacquiao

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  • aboutfkntime
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    #51
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    I was not attempting to pick a winner.

    just providing an example of ceteris paribus being used to define P4P criteria.
    Put it this way..... the idea of Ward being rated higher than Pacquiao on a current P4P list doesn't seem quite so unthinkable now does it ?

    The boxing guys know whats up.

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #52
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      I will say again, it likely comes down to styles.

      If Ward was naturally 5'7"-145lbs, and he fought Manny, who would win ?

      This is just one list, others dont recognize Ward.

      Just pick the list you like ^^
      P4P lists are like weather forecasts, every channel tells a different story.

      Just keep flipping channels til you find a weather forecast you like.

      That way you can enjoy your picnic without any awful surprises

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      • Mr.Fantastic
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        #53
        Pacquiao>>>>>Ward
        It's not even close.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
          Pacquiao>>>>>Ward
          It's not even close.
          You spent 5 years saying that about Pacquiao/Mayweather.

          Come on, you know the story with Manny and elite boxers.

          Shall we ask Morales/Marquez/Mayweather if they think that Pac > Ward easy ?

          Personally, I dont care..... P4P does not interest me.

          I just think it is important to define criteria when publishing lists or rankings.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            yeah?

            what was the last rigo fight you saw? donaire?
            His fight against that giant in Japan.

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            • Mr.Fantastic
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              #56
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              You spent 5 years saying that about Pacquiao/Mayweather.

              Come on, you know the story with Manny and elite boxers.

              Shall we ask Morales/Marquez/Mayweather if they think that Pac > Ward easy ?

              Personally, I dont care..... P4P does not interest me.

              I just think it is important to define criteria when publishing lists or rankings.
              Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather also. Took many more risks and came out on top. Mayweather may of won by boring decision but it doesn't mean he's greater. Look at how many people see Duran greater than Leonard.

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              • Lou Cipher
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                #57
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                So what, who has ?

                Very few P4P listers actually fight because of weight disparity.

                Listen, lists are subjective, they are completely individual.

                You can have your list however you want.

                It means nothing really.

                Just remove Ward.
                He would have to be there for me to remove him. He has potential, but he needs to FIGHT and he needs to fight P4P guys. Pacquiao, Pedcheater Jr, JC Chavez Sr, Roid Jones Jr, these are P4P names guys that FOUGHT P4P guys or guys with lineage to P4P (for example Ricky Hatton wasnt P4P but he beat Tszyu in his prime who was P4P) and won. If you need anymore schooling, you know where to find Lou Cipher.

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                • -PBP-
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                  #58
                  Fighters and trainers all got SOG and fans try to tell them they DKSAB.

                  No matter how hard you try to deny it, Ward exists.

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                  • MrRolltide91
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                    #59
                    ward is that dude

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
                      Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather also. Took many more risks and came out on top. Mayweather may of won by boring decision but it doesn't mean he's greater. Look at how many people see Duran greater than Leonard.
                      He didnt come out on top against Torrecampo/Singsurat/Morales/Marquez/Mayweather..... and he avoided a lot of fighters from 135-147.

                      The only criteria for ATG comparison is resume.

                      Who..... with consideration given to when/how.

                      That makes it a pretty short discussion.

                      Very few, if any, boxing insiders would rate Pacquiao higher than Mayweather.

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