Comments Thread For: What if Gennady Golovkin Loses?

[M Bison]

You don't think the JMM 4 fight had an effect on Manny's career? I don't agree because his earning power clearly dropped off and it took a good couple years to get that momentum he had back.

A proven great fighter managing to deal with something like that and getting back to his former spot really is kind of an exception not the rule.

If Golovkin gets knocked out I am not going to see you here for two weeks, which I don't really blame you because it would kind of suck. If he just lost a decision I am sure you would be around talking about how unfair something was about the fight.

A couple of years?
He came back after a break and beat Rios and Bradley in the same year, wouldn't say it took him years plus him as a person will always be a draw he doesn't need to hold an undefeated persona to make people want to get hyped for him his fight style alone does that.

[Larry the boss]

You guys who are worried about Lemieux..... you are definitely not the same guys who said that Golovkin could beat Ward, right?

[MrRolltide91]

Tyson was a proven household name at that stage.

true......

[The Gambler1981]

A couple of years?
He came back after a break and beat Rios and Bradley in the same year, wouldn't say it took him years plus him as a person will always be a draw he doesn't need to hold an undefeated persona to make people want to get hyped for him his fight style alone does that.

Ok put it this way if Manny fought Floyd when he fought JMM 4 it would do about the same as it did, if he does that fight after when he fought Bradley or Rios it might top the Canelo numbers but just, it wasn't until years later that the hype was workable to do the fight as if it was at it's peak.

That is not zero effect, and Top Rank did a great job building him back up. Plus Manny was already a proven great also.

If Golovkin gets starched here maybe he gets back to where he is now 1.5 or 2 years down the line (I think that is highly questionable), that puts him where exactly at 35-36.

[kafkod]

You could not be more wrong. Manny was caught by a big punch and knocked out cold and it did not have the slightest effect on his career. What hurt him much more was being out boxed by Floyd. ANYONE can get caught by a lucky punch at any time. It means little in the long run when you come back and continue winning and MANY fighters have come back to great careers after losing a fight by getting KTFO. IF you get out boxed, that is an entirely different story as it means that you can lose to any decent fighter with a good defense who can keep from being taken out.

Manny was already an icon to millions when he got KO'd by Marquez, and they didn't turn their backs on him, so his drawing power was unaffected.

Same thing with Hatton after he was KO'd by Floyd. His fans had been with him a long time, right from the start of his career, and they stayed with him, which was why he got another chance against Manny.

GGG doesn't have a big fan base of die-hard fans yet. He's starting to build one, but a KO defeat would stop that in it's tracks, I'm afraid.

If you think of a game of snakes and ladders, you could say the snake that GGG has to get past now to carry on progressing is a lot longer than the snakes that Manny and Hatton slid down after their KO defeats.

[doninlouisiana]

I'll tell u why not : Lemieux has power , but it's the type of power u can get up from after a knockdown . GGG has that kind of power that disables u from continuing . It should be exciting while it last doe .

The one thing none of us including Golovkin know is how he will deal with getting shook up, stunned, or hurt badly? Many fighters completely fold when they get hurt the first time..

[aboutfkntime]

The kid was only asking for a fair bet.
You should wait until Ward fights another unranked or retired bloke -- then we'll see...

Apparently Ward is not much good, so I expect great odds

[aboutfkntime]

You could not be more wrong. Manny was caught by a big punch and knocked out cold and it did not have the slightest effect on his career. What hurt him much more was being out boxed by Floyd. ANYONE can get caught by a lucky punch at any time. It means little in the long run when you come back and continue winning and MANY fighters have come back to great careers after losing a fight by getting KTFO. IF you get out boxed, that is an entirely different story as it means that you can lose to any decent fighter with a good defense who can keep from being taken out.

Pac was well-established as an elite PPV fighter, Golovkin hasnt done a thing.

And even Manny suffered a drop in marketability and PPV sales.

A GGG loss, no matter how it happened, would be an absolute disaster for him.

[Barcham]

Manny was already an icon to millions when he got KO'd by Marquez, and they didn't turn their backs on him, so his drawing power was unaffected.

Same thing with Hatton after he was KO'd by Floyd. His fans had been with him a long time, right from the start of his career, and they stayed with him, which was why he got another chance against Manny.

GGG doesn't have a big fan base of die-hard fans yet. He's starting to build one, but a KO defeat would stop that in it's tracks, I'm afraid.

If you think of a game of snakes and ladders, you could say the snake that GGG has to get past now to carry on progressing is a lot longer than the snakes that Manny and Hatton slid down after their KO defeats.

A KO defeat against someone like Monroe would stop him in his tracks. Against someone like Lemieux, a known devastating puncher with a KO percentage almost as good GGG's? Not so much.

I do not see Lemieux getting KOd by Golovkin as a career ender for him either. If N'dam had knocked him out, yeah, that would have been a huge defeat on his record. Golovkin knocks him out? No one would be shocked and he will pick himself up and keep going.

I am not of the opinion that one fight makes a career. Now if GGG gets KOd and then the same thing happens in his next fight, THEN there is something to worry about.

But this is all a totally pointless exercise as Golovkin will take care of business on Saturday as he always does and Lemieux and ODLH can eat some humble pie.

[MDPopescu]

Apparently Ward is not much good, so I expect great odds

A Golovkin vs Ward bet would be on money, not on points. The same for Kovalev vs Ward.