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Originally posted by glenn mcrory View PostMy question is, where are we gettin that Selby was some high-class operator in the first place?
Gradovich was always an extremely limited stiff, getting his title doesn't prove much IMO.
He wasn't supposed to look bad here. This was a cherry-pick gone wrong.
Imagine if Montiel wasn't so old and shot. He would've layed out Selby tonight. Imagine if that actually been a better fighter and there are plenty of better fighters in the division.
"The Welsh Mayweather"
Montiel looked like the slicker guy in there.
As a comparison to how expectations pan out, look at Frampton's first Stateside fight against the Mexican kid. He was supposed to walk that. He did eventually close it out comfortably, but not before serious early problems. Nobody saw that and his opponent was in with a chance right to the end. So is Frampton now a crap fighter?
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And this is why i think Nonito would be competitive or dominate in 122/126 still, he lost to Rigo and Walters(who arguably beats anyone at 126) and he was competitive with Walters in the early parts.
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Originally posted by SteveM View Post'High Class Operator' - what's that for you? For me it is not elite.I have Selby as top 10 at his weight. Gradovich was thought to be top 10 at the time. Selby made him look crude. My point is fighters have good nights and bad nights. Tonight was at best a bad night for Selby compared to expectations, at worst it might mean that he is, as you say, just not top level in his division. I say it is too early to tell based off of one under-performance.
As a comparison to how expectations pan out, look at Frampton's first Stateside fight against the Mexican kid. He was supposed to walk that. He did eventually close it out comfortably, but not before serious early problems. Nobody saw that and his opponent was in with a chance right to the end. So is Frampton now a crap fighter?
On Frampton, well, one of his best wins, Chris Avalos, just got completely destroyed by an okay guy in Valdez. Quigg just blasted Kiko out too. So yeah, don't think that highly of Frampton either.
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Selby won pretty clearly
He made hard work of that fight props to montiel he gave it 100%
Boxingscene over reacting again .... It was a tough fight which he won
Selby is still a good fighter just had a off night
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Originally posted by ukalltheway View PostSelby won pretty clearly
He made hard work of that fight props to montiel he gave it 100%
Boxingscene over reacting again .... It was a tough fight which he won
Selby is still a good fighter just had a off night
nobody is overreacting he is just not that great not world level but uk bum level
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Originally posted by solo20 View Postagainst a guy whos is not in his prime and does not belong at featherweight keep on ****pulling yep it was a off night bwahaha
nobody is overreacting he is just not that great not world level but uk bum level
Your acting like a emotional female
Fall back poof
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Originally posted by ukalltheway View PostSelby won pretty clearly
He made hard work of that fight props to montiel he gave it 100%
Boxingscene over reacting again .... It was a tough fight which he won
Selby is still a good fighter just had a off night
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