Comments Thread For: Arum: I Told Pacquiao To Forget Mayweather, Move On

[Cinci Champ]

did anyone ever think it would be anyone but bradley or matyssee? i sure as hell didnt

[elfag]

Why is it that when a fighter beats Manny they have to be on roids?? and if they dont want to rematch him they are cowards??

theyre not always on roids. sometimes manny wears the wrong socks or was weakened by needles. but the rest of his losses, well those are roids

[ironmt]

The reason is simple.

This rivalry, like any other rivalry in boxing, needed an end. There were 4 fights because the first 3 left us without a clear winner.

There is no better way to end it then one guy getting knocked into next year by his rival.

For example, if Pac put JMM to sleep like that in the 3rd fight, guess what, there is no 4th fight.

So now for the sake of argument, lets say they fought a 5th time and its another controversial decision, do they fight a 6th time? And i know it would be another great fight, but what if theres no closure there?

The chapter is closed, we gotta let it go.

The reason Is not that simple. A great fight Is a great fight. As a boxing fan are you going to tell me that you would not have watched Gatti/Ward 2 or 3 more times or Castillo/Corrales? Boxing history has also showed that there were past rivalries where the fights extended well beyond 4-5 fights. Does It really matter how many times two great fighters fight? I would think not. What matters Is the quality of the fight and that 4th fight had plenty of drama and was what I would consider a great fight.The final reason and possibly the most Important reason to do It again would be financial. The fight would certainly sell.

[Zaroku]

Yes Manny should move on and retire, there's nowhere to go but down after the Mayweather fight. There's no need for a rematch, no shoulder was injured (pride maybe), nothing happened outside of the laws of physics except someone got out boxed. The reaction to this fact has been bizarrely entertaining, let me see if I'm getting all of the convolutions right:

Step 1. (God delivers the hated Mayweather into the hands of the Righteous and sinless Manny Pacquiao)-------------->Step 2. (Manny declares he won the fight even though he knows he lost, who would disagree he's Manny and Mayweather is Satan)------------->Step 3. (Manny gets interviewed by someone who isn't thirsty for Kool Aid, Max Kellerman, who snaps his ass back to reality. "Dude you lost")-------------->Step 4. (Manny goes to the post-fight press conference where everyone thought he lost, but he moronically tries to claim he still won even with an injured shoulder)--------------->Step 5. (Fan support is triggered and a herd of mentally unbalanced people clog up YouTube and boxing forums with reasons why Manny actually won, "PLEASE WATCH THE FIGHT IN SLOW MOTION, MANNY IS TOO FAST FOR NORMAL SPEED, HE WON")------------->Step 6. (Mayweather used an IV, therefore it's obvious, Manny won with one arm, while not landing on a two armed steroid abuser)-------------->Step 7. (Manny finally reveals that God told him he would lose the fight)------------->Step 8. (Manny also reveals that he was injured during the 4th round of the fight with Floyd)----------------->Step 9. (Somehow Manny's fans accept all of the startling contradictions and continue to spam forums with wet and sloppy tears claiming Manny won and was ripped off by a steroid cheat whose abilities were supernaturally increased (a component needed to beat Pacquiao) so he could outpoint a fighter that was KO'd 3 times)--------------->Step 10. (Hope and pray the mainstream media pick up on the whining about PEDs so they can invalidate the entire career of Floyd Mayweather, including the real, but painful loss on May 2nd)

I'm assuming there will be additional steps in the future....

¥¥¥¥¥ €€€€€ £££££ $$$$, laughing my axx off.

What about the tight socks? Or was that a different fight?

I laugh all the time because of this forum. Thanks everyone.
Keep up the good stuff!

[aboutfkntime]

The reason Is not that simple. A great fight Is a great fight. As a boxing fan are you going to tell me that you would not have watched Gatti/Ward 2 or 3 more times or Castillo/Corrales? Boxing history has also showed that there were past rivalries where the fights extended well beyond 4-5 fights. Does It really matter how many times two great fighters fight? I would think not. What matters Is the quality of the fight and that 4th fight had plenty of drama and was what I would consider a great fight.The final reason and possibly the most Important reason to do It again would be financial. The fight would certainly sell.

[AllBoxingAD]

The reason Is not that simple. A great fight Is a great fight. As a boxing fan are you going to tell me that you would not have watched Gatti/Ward 2 or 3 more times or Castillo/Corrales? Boxing history has also showed that there were past rivalries where the fights extended well beyond 4-5 fights. Does It really matter how many times two great fighters fight? I would think not. What matters Is the quality of the fight and that 4th fight had plenty of drama and was what I would consider a great fight.The final reason and possibly the most Important reason to do It again would be financial. The fight would certainly sell.

I guess it depends how you view things.

For me, i want a rivalry to deliver more then a great close fight, i want one of the fighters to prove his superiority and win the rivalry. Like i said, theres gotta closure at the end of the day. Rivalries in boxing have always had an end. Guys move on to the next challenge afterwards.

Boxing to me is about proving who is the best.

[ironmt]

LOL, not really Interested In seeing It go quite that far.

[ironmt]

I guess it depends how you view things.

For me, i want a rivalry to deliver more then a great close fight, i want one of the fighters to prove his superiority and win the rivalry. Like i said, theres gotta closure at the end of the day. Rivalries in boxing have always had an end. Guys move on to the next challenge afterwards.

Boxing to me is about proving who is the best.

Fair enough, good disscussion.

[GOD-FR33]

Let's be honest...

Why is it that when a fighter beats Manny they have to be on roids?? and if they dont want to rematch him they are cowards??

You finally took me off your ignore list, ey? I just did the same for "IMDAZED". Change is good. Anyway, what I don't get credit for on here, is being an honest and unbiased poster. If you defeat a fighter I like, you beat them. I am not a sore loser, I am just a smart guy. Juan hates Manny Pacquiao and was bitter he lost the first 3 fights. In his position and at his age at the time the 4th fight occurred, his back was against the wall. He had to WIN! What he did in hiring a PED pusher, was a desperate move man. He had never been so BIG before. He had never punched that hard before. He was a good puncher but not a one punch KO puncher. He became that. It is very obvious that he cheated in that fight. No? It is also obvious he cheated in the Alvarado fight as well. He knocked him almost out of the ring on the opposite side and cut his eye BAD in the process. Smh. He is a cheater, Larry. We cannot support or take up for fighters who cheat. Floyd is in the same boat right now. He is a great fighter but he most likely pulled a Lance Armstrong for several years. The jury is out on him. The facts will eventually come out. It's a shame that Juan and Floyd had to cheat to beat Manny. It's a tribute to his greatness I guess.

[Lester Tutor]

You finally took me off your ignore list, ey? I just did the same for "IMDAZED". Change is good. Anyway, what I don't get credit for on here, is being an honest and unbiased poster. If you defeat a fighter I like, you beat them. I am not a sore loser, I am just a smart guy. Juan hates Manny Pacquiao and was bitter he lost the first 3 fights. In his position and at his age at the time the 4th fight occurred, his back was against the wall. He had to WIN! What he did in hiring a PED pusher, was a desperate move man. He had never been so BIG before. He had never punched that hard before. He was a good puncher but not a one punch KO puncher. He became that. It is very obvious that he cheated in that fight. No? It is also obvious he cheated in the Alvarado fight as well. He knocked him almost out of the ring on the opposite side and cut his eye BAD in the process. Smh. He is a cheater, Larry. We cannot support or take up for fighters who cheat. Floyd is in the same boat right now. He is a great fighter but he most likely pulled a Lance Armstrong for several years. The jury is out on him. The facts will eventually come out. It's a shame that Juan and Floyd had to cheat to beat Manny. It's a tribute to his greatness I guess.

cmon man, but you're from Wisconsin...nothing happens there. This is why your experience or view is dwarfed. =P

Marquez has never been stopped in his career. Marquez vs Pac 1; who would deny Marquez came back after Rd 1 amazingly. Bouts 2 and 3 were MD and SD. That in itself proves skepticism from at least one judge, that makes a difference, and in many boxing fans, they said Marquez was robbed in bout 3, same say even 2. However, fast forward, bout 4, Pac gets dropped in Rd 3, and in Rd 6 good night lying prince, justice has been served.

Oh no wait, whenever Pac loses there's a fine excuse. Just like in his earlier career, Pac wasn't great ''back then'' which is why he got KO'd twice... Yeah this all makes sense in the world of Top Rank Promotional Fights.