Mayweather owns ESPN Reporter Bernardo Osuna, your thoughts?

[Johnwoo8686]

And those guys shouldn't have taken easy fights. So I don't see how that excuses Floyd from doing it because "everyone else" did.

Why not? All fighters have taken "stay busy fights." There are only a few exceptional fighters out there. Are these guys just going to sit around and do nothing until another great fighter is available?

[therealpugilist]

Been watching boxing and fans of the sport for about 30 years, and you?

20+ years, im 30 years old.... so as a fan im sure you've seen fights you didn't agree with....I have too but hey....lets not act like Mayweather vs Berto was bad as fights like ODLH VS CARPIENTIER


I watched the fights anyway because im a boxing fan...worse case scenario is not getting fights at all


Just like people who don't support PREMIER BOXING CHAMPIONS...I remember watching world title fights for free in the late 80's to 90's then it died in the 2000's only had FSN and Friday night fights on espn on free tv for a long time...even remember SRL trying to promote

either way...im watching whether I like the fight or not...fights are won in the ring not on forums so if its a fight, im on the edge of my seat

[Raonic]

Why not? All fighters have taken "stay busy fights." There are only a few exceptional fighters out there. Are these guys just going to sit around and do nothing until another great fighter is available?

There's obviously limits. If it's a stay busy fight or coming off a loss or moving up division or facing their mandatory, of course it's reasonable to expect. I'm talking about fighters who pulled the same crap Mayweather did with Berto.

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20+ years, im 30 years old.... so as a fan im sure you've seen fights you didn't agree with....I have too but hey....lets not act like Mayweather vs Berto was bad as fights like ODLH VS CARPIENTIER


I watched the fights anyway because im a boxing fan...worse case scenario is not getting fights at all


Just like people who don't support PREMIER BOXING CHAMPIONS...I remember watching world title fights for free in the late 80's to 90's then it died in the 2000's only had FSN and Friday night fights on espn on free tv for a long time...even remember SRL trying to promote

either way...im watching whether I like the fight or not...fights are won in the ring not on forums so if its a fight, im on the edge of my seat

I remember this too! I respect your points, I just don't agree. It really bugged me that he chose Berto, because I have defended Floyd on a number of occasions over the years and I felt let down. I imagined he would have something special for his fans for his last fight, I was wrong. I can live with it, but I don't have to respect it....

[therealpugilist]

I remember this too! I respect your points, I just don't agree. It really bugged me that he chose Berto, because I have defended Floyd on a number of occasions over the years and I felt let down. I imagined he would have something special for his fans for his last fight, I was wrong. I can live with it, but I don't have to respect it....

the thing people don't realize is, he is at a time when their is a changing of the guard and his era is gone.....no one has separated themselves from the pack and all of them have one signature win

Thurman beat Guerrero

Porter has Alexander

Khan has Alexander

Brook has Porter


Even Berto isn't from this era....the best welterweights are under 30 while Mayweather and Berto are closer to 40 than 30...his best days were the early part of the decade and late 2000s

none of them would have enhanced his legacy considering they don't have deep resumes


Its a lot different than when he first entered 147 and from 07-2012 the best welters were hall of famers Mosley, Cotto, and Manny....former champions Judah and Margarito

none of these guys today have done as much as those guys did...they are all upstarts....so he was kind of in at a dead end, opponent wise at 147

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the thing people don't realize is, he is at a time when their is a changing of the guard and his era is gone.....no one has separated themselves from the pack and all of them have one signature win

Thurman beat Guerrero

Porter has Alexander

Khan has Alexander

Brook has Porter


Even Berto isn't from this era....the best welterweights are under 30 while Mayweather and Berto are closer to 40 than 30...his best days were the early part of the decade and late 2000s

none of them would have enhanced his legacy considering they don't have deep resumes


Its a lot different than when he first entered 147 and from 07-2012 the best welters were hall of famers Mosley, Cotto, and Manny....former champions Judah and Margarito

none of these guys today have done as much as those guys did...they are all upstarts....so he was kind of in at a dead end, opponent wise at 147

I don't believe this is true, there were any number of opponents he could have chosen that would have been better than Berto that he could have beat. What about Brook, Thurman or Porter?

[Johnwoo8686]

There's obviously limits. If it's a stay busy fight or coming off a loss or moving up division or facing their mandatory, of course it's reasonable to expect. I'm talking about fighters who pulled the same crap Mayweather did with Berto.

The Berto fight was a fight for Mayweather to complete his Showtime contract. It was a stay busy fight. Floyd beat the guy everyone wanted to see him face. Even the promotion for the fight was exhausting so I don't blame the man for taking an easy fight especially at 38 years old after facing and defeating your career rival.

[therealpugilist]

I don't believe this is true, there were any number of opponents he could have chosen that would have been better than Berto that he could have beat. What about Brook, Thurman or Porter?

I didn't say their wasn't better opponents at 147, I didn't like the Berto pick myself, but none of them guys Brook, Thurman or Porter have more than one win over a top ten guy


None of the guys at 147 after Pac separated themselves from the Pack yet....instead of whining they could have been fighting each other the past few years instead of gatekeepers

[Raonic]

The Berto fight was a fight for Mayweather to complete his Showtime contract. It was a stay busy fight. Floyd beat the guy everyone wanted to see him face. Even the promotion for the fight was exhausting so I don't blame the man for taking an easy fight especially at 38 years old after facing and defeating your career rival.

Lol there's really no way you can actually interpret Berto as a stay busy fight. Like none at all. You might want to check the definition of stay busy fight.

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I didn't say their wasn't better opponents at 147, I didn't like the Berto pick myself, but none of them guys Brook, Thurman or Porter have more than one win over a top ten guy


None of the guys at 147 after Pac separated themselves from the Pack yet....instead of whining they could have been fighting each other the past few years instead of gatekeepers

This is true but they're young lions that would have offered more of a challenge than Berto, if not actually, then at least in the minds of fans. Could they have done more to put themselves out there by fighting each other? Sure, but all that means is we have no idea how they're going to respond in the ring. Berto we know about, he's a proven bum through and through....