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  • therealpugilist
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    #51
    Originally posted by Raonic
    And those guys shouldn't have taken easy fights. So I don't see how that excuses Floyd from doing it because "everyone else" did.
    im not excusing anyone....just making a point all fighters have faced fighters below their level.....try naming one all time great that didn't fight an easy touch while in their prime or on a great run....just one

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      #52
      Originally posted by therealpugilist
      Its not the first or last time an all time great took an "easy" fight


      Ali fought Jurgen Blin, Karl Mildenberger, Alfredo Evangelista, and chuck wepner(now that's ridiculous) after a career defining win


      After getting a draw with Whitaker JCC fought 14-8-0 mike powell


      all greats have had free passes....mayweather didn't start some phenomenon
      Why would an all-time great get a free pass? They're boxers, and boxers get in the ring to face credible challenges and to be competitive. What Mayweather did by choosing Andre Berto in my humble opinion was disrespect his fans and the sport. Berto is a class A bum, nothing more.

      You can't ask fight fans to contextualize a choice that is so apparently awful. Only a dope would've paid for a garbage fight like that.

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      • Raonic
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        #53
        Originally posted by therealpugilist
        im not excusing anyone....just making a point all fighters have faced fighters below their level.....try naming one all time great that didn't fight an easy touch while in their prime or on a great run....just one
        Except every time someone brings up Floyd's choice of competition, you get defensive even though you admit yourself Berto is an easy fight.

        There's really no need to bring up those fighters since they're not in the conversation. We all know those guys before him took easy fights as well. But you ALWAYS want to bring that up when people criticize Floyd since you're always on defensive mode and try to play victim just like Floyd.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Slip Stream
          Why would an all-time great get a free pass? They're boxers, and boxers get in the ring to face credible challenges and to be competitive. What Mayweather did by choosing Andre Berto in my humble opinion was disrespect his fans and the sport. Berto is a class A bum, nothing more.

          You can't ask fight fans to contextualize a choice that is so apparently awful. Only a dope would pay for a garbage fight like that.
          no matter how you slice it every great fighter has fought a slew of fighters not on or near their level...Class A bums don't win 2 major titles in one weight class....dude has 4 losses......you'd think his record was 50-24 and having never beat a top ten contender....im sure you've never boxed a day in your life, show pros especially former titleholders more respect bro....I didn't like that he picked Berto but Berto at least has credientials

          just stating facts


          It must be a lot of dopes in boxing because peopLe paid to see THEM ALL FIGHT

          if its a fight, people will pay to see it

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            #55
            Originally posted by Raonic
            Except every time someone brings up Floyd's choice of competition, you get defensive even though you admit yourself Berto is an easy fight.

            There's really no need to bring up those fighters since they're not in the conversation. We all know those guys before him took easy fights as well. But you ALWAYS want to bring that up when people criticize Floyd since you're always on defensive mode and try to play victim just like Floyd.
            how am I being defensive by stating facts bro


            do us both a favor and name one fighter who didn't face someone below their level.....just one

            sounds like a double standard...they all have faced guys below their level at some point in their careers so why act like their is only one fighter that ever did it


            Remember ODLH vs Patrick Carpentier...that was bad but it happens in boxing

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              #56
              Originally posted by b00g13man
              Call out GGG fanboys for being lame. Do the same with Khan fanboys. Talk about other boxers and fights. You know, the usual.

              I'm not unfortunately the one on trial here. I didn't make any bold claims, and then get brutally exposed.
              Am I not currently arguing in another thread that GGG is a small MW and its a stretch to think he could go up and KO heavyweights?

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                #57
                Originally posted by therealpugilist
                no matter how you slice it every great fighter has fought a slew of fighters not on or near their level...Class A bums don't win 2 major titles in one weight class....dude has 4 losses......you'd think his record was 50-24 and having never beat a top ten contender....im sure you've never boxed a day in your life, show pros especially former titleholders more respect bro....I didn't like that he picked Berto but Berto at least has credientials

                just stating facts


                It must be a lot of dopes in boxing because peopLe paid to see THEM ALL FIGHT

                if its a fight, people will pay to see it
                Floyd's choice of Berto was naked disrespect. Why would he ask his fans to pay for an easy fight for him, line his coffers simply because they like him? ****, he might as well claim to be Jesus and start collecting tithes and offerings if I was dumb enough to listen to that. I see your reasoning though, because other fighters took the easy road it's okay for Floyd to screw his fans that paid records sums watching him school Manny? So he makes over 200 million for one fight but gets to act like he owes his fans nothing? Yeah right.

                I don't like Floyd or any fighter enough to shell out my hard earned money for horse****....

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  how am I being defensive by stating facts bro


                  do us both a favor and name one fighter who didn't face someone below their level.....just one

                  sounds like a double standard...they all have faced guys below their level at some point in their careers so why act like their is only one fighter that ever did it


                  Remember ODLH vs Patrick Carpentier...that was bad but it happens in boxing
                  :laugh2:

                  Clearly you're not getting my point. If you knew how to read, maybe you might understand.

                  You're asking my to name someone who didn't fight someone below their level. Well I never said that such fighter existed. You say you are stating facts. Well I'm not denying those fighters haven't fought lesser competition.

                  All I said was that those fighters (you keep bringing up) deserved criticism for those fights the way Floyd deserves criticism for his fights now. Yet for some reason, when Floyd gets criticized, you make it your mission to bring up everyone else who fought bad competition like that would suddenly detract everything that was brought up against Floyd.

                  Go back to school. It'll help you understand better. Maybe.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Slip Stream
                    Floyd's choice of Berto was naked disrespect. Why would he ask his fans to pay for an easy fight for him, line his coffers simply because they like him? ****, he might as well claim to be Jesus and start collecting tithes and offerings if I was dumb enough to listen to that. I see your reasoning though, because other fighters took the easy road it's okay for Floyd to screw his fans that paid records sums watching him school Manny? So he makes over 200 million for one fight but gets to act like he owes his fans nothing? Yeah right.

                    I don't like Floyd or any fighter enough to shell out my hard earned money for horse****....
                    [B]how long have you been following boxing???? It wasn't the fight I wanted to see but their have definirely been worse on the world class level

                    He doesn't owe his fans anything....just being real....he doesn't. He is the one taking the punches, low blows, elbows in each fight.... He owes his kids and his family for time he dedicated in this sport and took away from spending with them.[/B]

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      [B]how long have you been following boxing???? It wasn't the fight I wanted to see but their have definirely been worse on the world class level

                      He doesn't owe his fans anything....just being real....he doesn't. He is the one taking the punches, low blows, elbows in each fight.... He owes his kids and his family for time he dedicated in this sport and took away from spending with them.[/B]
                      Been watching boxing and fans of the sport for about 30 years, and you?

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