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  • firstborn
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    #181
    Actually its not. Ward has a history of having his legal team make allegations and accusations that are found to be untrue later in court.

    That in and of itself casts su****ion on anything coming out of their mouths.
    Losing a legal battle is different than being an out right liar. I know that from experience as do many other people that have taken a case to court and lost.

    It just shows them to be trigger happy with frivolous lawsuits, and continually overestimating his market worth.
    Not sure about the bold but it appears Ward could benefit from a better legal team. He seems to be a decent person on the receiving end of bad business advice. There's no doubt he would have wasted his career away if Roc Nation hadn't come along and settled his contract issues.

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    • OnePunch
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      #182
      Originally posted by firstborn
      Losing a legal battle is different than being an out right liar. I know that from experience as do many other people that have taken a case to court and lost.



      Not sure about the bold but it appears Ward could benefit from a better legal team. He seems to be a decent person on the receiving end of bad business advice. There's no doubt he would have wasted his career away if Roc Nation hadn't come along and settled his contract issues.

      contract law is pretty black & white. Someone either breached, or they didnt. Its not like other types of cases where there are alot of gray areas......

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      • matt22
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        #183
        Ward the Biggest con artist in boxing!!

        Originally posted by PBP.
        There's 2 sides to every story so I'm not going to cheerlead but Abel Sanchez does need to STFU. He's the one that put the 154-168 comment out there in the public, said Willie Monroe was more know than Lara and keeping the talks of a potential Ward fight alive.

        Right now GGG has a lineup of winnable big money fight possibilities. Why move up and take an L that will kill that momentum? It's the May/Pac business strategy. Ride the money train until the fans get tired of it and only fight each other when forced to.

        I like what Ward is doing. He kept his mouth shut, called their bluff, and is now moving on to face a bigger challenge in Kovalev. His inactivity was frustrating and not fighting Dawson at 175 didn't sit well with me but he looks to be headed back in the right direction.
        First, Ward did not keep his mouth shut. He keeps on jabbering about Golovkin. His best win is against the biggest scrub in boxing Carl Froch whose biggest win is Groves who is D level domestic. Froch was getting creamed in the first fight. Dirrell smoked him and was perhaps the biggest rip offs in boxing history.

        Second, Ward has not said that he will fight Kovalev. So stop spreading lies.

        Third, Ward is a talented fighter but he is taking the Mayweather route u know avoid prime fast slick fighters. (scared of Degale for instance).

        Fourth, Goloovkin is the draw and Ward has to deal with it or keep on fighting scrubs on BET and getting zero viewership.

        Fifth, wake up and make your own legacy follow the Ali, hagler, Duran route and not the Mayweather one

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        • Barcham
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          #184
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          Oh that's right, he did say that and got backed up by nobody including his promoter.
          And that time frame puts the offer back to Feb - March 2015. Well BEFORE Lemieux ever fought for his title, or was even a thought as an opponent to GGG.

          So that would mean that Ward did not tell the truth. In other words... Ward told a LIE. People who lie are called what?

          I think the term is LIAR.

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          • GoldenGloveLove
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            #185
            Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
            I can tell when people don't know what they are talking about.

            Watch Road to GGG/Lamieux, or any other recent GGG interview.

            Limited English. He speaks it better than many people this thread.

            Hell, he speaks it better than a lot of people here.
            lol Yeah, Pro. He is the master of English and gets all the subtle nuances of the language. I've listened to his interviews for years. I know what he sounds like-you apparently hear what you want to hear the way you want to hear it and want to argue when other people are objective. That's cool. Wish you luck with it. Sorry you're doing this to yourself. Get well soon.

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            • HeroBando
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              #186
              Originally posted by Barcham
              And that time frame puts the offer back to Feb - March 2015. Well BEFORE Lemieux ever fought for his title, or was even a thought as an opponent to GGG.

              So that would mean that Ward did not tell the truth. In other words... Ward told a LIE. People who lie are called what?

              I think the term is LIAR.
              He was just joking, like with beating Klitschko, HW champ by 32, Floyd at 160, ready for top 175 3 years ago etc. His team, full of jokers like that "Lil G" attorney

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              • Progrssive_Jedi
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                #187
                I'm not flaunting, but as a PR Major (MS), Journalism (BA)

                I have extensive training in the defamation and the First *********.

                To sue he needs to prove that the statement was published, false, injurious, and not privileged. That's harder than it appears.

                However, it has no have no truth to it at all.

                You can tell the truth and the onus is on him to prove it is false.

                The First ********* Baby.

                It's helps keep silly people like Ward from dragging things to court.

                He can try, but his lawyer knows it's dumb and likely to fail.


                Originally posted by firstborn
                I'm not in favor of Ward suing Sanchez for slander but I notice that when one fighter does it, it's considered defending honor and reputation. It's looked at differently when Ward simply warns Sanchez to stop telling lies.

                Ward seems to take his image and career seriously, perhaps too serious for the causal fan. I doubt he'd go to this length if he didn't have evidence of the truth.
                Not sure why you quoted me then.

                And I'm not for GGG suing Ward.

                I care little about what Ward does.

                This is about protecting Cotto and Canelo from the real MW champ.

                Originally posted by HeroBando
                You mean like the 3 times he sued Goossen and lost all? Probably would help to get a lawyer that doesn't use the "Lil G" gimmick, makes them look like obvious clowns upfront

                They didn't even deny that Lemieux was done, they say we didnt know. Well Loeffler did, and he'd have to be an idiot to consider that offer
                That's the thing, Ward made statements, and the reacted. He is now threatening to sue.

                Really!

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                • Progrssive_Jedi
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                  #188
                  Oh, now you say he isn't an expert

                  Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove
                  lol Yeah, Pro. He is the master of English and gets all the subtle nuances of the language. I've listened to his interviews for years. I know what he sounds like-you apparently hear what you want to hear the way you want to hear it and want to argue when other people are objective. That's cool. Wish you luck with it. Sorry you're doing this to yourself. Get well soon.

                  Your friend,
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                  Where before you were saying he could hardly speak it.

                  I didn't hear you, I read you.

                  There is a nuance of English for you. Do you know what that is called, Mr. Linguist.

                  Now back to what I said, GGG speaks English well enough. Canelo, not so much.

                  You all act like GGG can't speak but two words. Well before, but suddenly that has changed to whether he has mastered the language. Few have!

                  And, I'd be glad to have an objective debate on this site, but few here deal in objectivity.

                  Many just throw around statements such as GGG Has issues understanding English. Or as you called him, a "limited English fighter."
                  Last edited by Progrssive_Jedi; 10-10-2015, 07:15 PM.

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                  • NachoMan
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                    #189
                    Dumbest thing I ever heard. What are the damages here? You can't call someone a liar, especially when they are, anymore?? Get your damn ass in the ring Ward. I used to be a fan, but what a crying ***** this guy is turning out to be.

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                    • GoldenGloveLove
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                      Where before you were saying he could hardly speak it.

                      I didn't hear you, I read you.

                      There is a nuance of English for you. Do you know what that is called, Mr. Linguist.

                      Now back to what I said, GGG speaks English well enough. Canelo, not so much.

                      You all act like GGG can't speak but two words. Well before, but suddenly that has changed to whether he has mastered the language. Few have!

                      And, I'd be glad to have an objective debate on this site, but few here deal in objectivity.

                      Many just throw around statements such as GGG Has issues understanding English. Or as you called him, a "limited English fighter."

                      Listen, if it makes you feel better, I am absolutely certain that your fanboyism is a special fanboyism and that it will be rewarded in the afterlife with 72 *******. I said he had limited English. That is just an obvious fact that he does not have the average grasp of nuance of the language of an average native English speaker. If you choose to read that as an insult, it's because you're defensive and silly.

                      I said nothing insulting about Golovkin, I stated the obvious about him-he obviously has limited English. It's not a knock on his intelligence. It's not a knock on him personally or professionally or emotionally or intellectually or spiritually or nationalistically or racially or anything else. Don't worry your pretty little head. Nobody's insulting your fighter. I am however insulting you for being ridiculously defensive and melodramatic. You are being a ridiculous person right now. I never claimed to be a linguist, but I will claim the obvious, which is that I am a native English speaker who has a better grasp of the nuance of the language than Golovkin and there's nothing about this which is not readily apparent to an objective person. Wash the makeup off your face, put the candles out, stop committing self harm over it, you'll be fine. Take care.

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