No US medals at the World Champs

[Scipio2009]

That makes sense. However, it may hurt his development by depriving him of valuable experience. A gamble. Will be interesting to see how it pans out.

He's been moved along pretty well, from what I can tell; 7 fights in 2014, 5-6 fights in 2015, against the level of guys that most other young prospects would've likely been put in with, 40 rounds in the ring as a pro.

time will tell

[Scipio2009]

guess what dummy, they have sports in other countries too, do you think boxing is the biggest sport in europe and that the kids just "Grow up boxing"? lmao

america ruled boxing when it had near complete control of boxing promotion, no other reason, imagine if PBC was all we had and you get the picture

back when foreman vs lyle was considered a display of skill and technique (2 barely trained men gassing in rd 1 then winging slow motion 12 ft wide hooks at each other with a 1% block percentage for the remainder of the fight). That sort of stuff is worshiped in US boxing. Nostalgia for that horrid slop is probably the reason they can't compete anymore.

The only US boxers who survived were the point boxer/philly shell guys who fight more like cubans than they do like old school US boxers.

Basketball, football, and baseball all provide easier paths to sustenance that boxing does (and, to be frank, a kid doesn't even need to go pro; get yourself a college scholarship, earn a degree, and/or make connections when in school); that's before counting the other non-boxing ways a kid has to make something of themselves.

In Europe, you have soccer, rugby, cricket.... and not much else (coming from a non-European). Boxing is a far bigger option for folks internationally than it is in the US.

[Scipio2009]

I'd hardly call destroying the reputation of his fighters, putting his fighters in meaningless fights with empty arenas and poor tv ratings, hurting his fighters' development, burning bridges with every other major power in boxing, and tying his fighters to an unsustainable business project Haymon taking care of his fighters. Once the PBC money runs out, Haymon's fighters will be stuck. A short term gain in exchange for potentially destroying their careers. Watching these World Championships really makes me realize how frustrating Haymon's matchmaking is. In the Worlds, top fighters consistently face each other.

... Showtime is still heavily involved in boxing, to the point that I wouldn't be shocked if their boxing budget was larger than HBO's.

Once the PBC money runs out (and the other networks don't come along), Haymon will head back to Showtime/CBS with near every young marketable fighter in the sport [Wilder, Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Beterbiev, Kell Brook, Anthony Joshua, Frampton/Quigg/LSC/Russell/Cuellar/Selby winner, etc], to a network that isn't cutting their boxing budget.

hate if you want.