Originally posted by soul_survivor
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Did Y'all want Lucas to continue and end up like Margarito?
Collapse
-
-
Originally posted by Gonzalez_Boxing View PostWith all that said, you still can't demand a fighter to fight. You can choose to change the channel, choose not to pay for HBO, not support said fight, but you will never be able to demand a fighter to fight, no matter how you slice it.
Which is why most fighters choose to go on and lose laying flat on their shield, not on one knee watching the count. Which is why the likes of Gatti always drew crowds. Plus it's not just that, it's the fact that boxing, as a martial art, defines a man. One can not just say "no more"...that will haunt him and damage him and take him years to recover. Just ask Duran.
Comment
-
This is why i am on fire today.when a fighter who is defensive andfights everyone and wins.you call him a ****ing coward..but when a so called warrior who loses every damn time he steps up quits in the middle of the ****ing ring and tells you he was not hurt but it was"health first" ya'll make a million excuses for him...ya'll are clowns
Comment
-
Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostIt's not just me as an individual, it's the entire boxing public and once they feel a fighter is not worth their effort, they will turn away, change the channel and that damages the ratings, the tv execs pockets and the fighter's reputation. Which is why you will see a drop in matthysse's promotion and his paychecks. HBO and all other broadcasters know what is worth their money, they know Matthysse may no longer be.
Which is why most fighters choose to go on and lose laying flat on their shield, not on one knee watching the count. Which is why the likes of Gatti always drew crowds. Plus it's not just that, it's the fact that boxing, as a martial art, defines a man. One can not just say "no more"...that will haunt him and damage him and take him years to recover. Just ask Duran.
I'm sure as a professional fighter Lucas is well aware of the consequences of quitting. If he felt he was too injured or had no chance of winning and decided to quit, that's on him. What takes one fighter years to recover from might take another fighter a fight or two.
If you feel martial arts defines a man, then good on you. I look at it as sports entertainment, not a measuring stick. You have good days and bad days, and I won't discount a whole career over one fight nor will I demand a fighter perform a certain way for my entertainment. If I don't like what I see I tune out, simple as that.
Comment
-
Originally posted by LarryXXX View PostThis is why i am on fire today.when a fighter who is defensive andfights everyone and wins.you call him a ****ing coward..but when a so called warrior who loses every damn time he steps up quits in the middle of the ****ing ring and tells you he was not hurt but it was"health first" ya'll make a million excuses for him...ya'll are clowns
Comment
-
It's the double standards that are annoying.
Ortiz is a quitter, but Matthysse isn't? We always excuse the fighters we like for quitting, even when it's in a manner that's hard to excuse, like with this fight.
It was also the end of the round. If Lucas had gotten up, he could've checked out the eye as he claims. Frankly, it sounds like bullshlt from Lucas. He was beat, and he quit. He claims the headbut hurt his eye and the punch temporarily blinded him? Pure bad luck? Sounds like excuses to me.
Funny how no one ever quits like that when they are winning the fight.
Comment
-
I do agree. Matthysse lost but clearly there was something wrong there. It's like complaining about Vitali having to retire after injury himself. It's also not different from a guy who doesn't have his head together after a KO and is still waay too wobbly (like Geale or Monroe).
Boxing's a dangerous sport that you can't risk going on just like that.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Heavyfist View PostIt's the double standards that are annoying.
Ortiz is a quitter, but Matthysse isn't? We always excuse the fighters we like for quitting, even when it's in a manner that's hard to excuse, like with this fight.
It was also the end of the round. If Lucas had gotten up, he could've checked out the eye as he claims. Frankly, it sounds like bullshlt from Lucas. He was beat, and he quit. He claims the headbut hurt his eye and the punch temporarily blinded him? Pure bad luck? Sounds like excuses to me.
Funny how no one ever quits like that when they are winning the fight.
Comment
Comment