We are in a Weak Middleweight Era

**soul_survivor** · 10-03-2015, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop

For champions we have:

a weak chinned Andy Lee

GGG who in his first 14 title defenses only fought a few in the top 10

Miguel Cotto who never fought at middleweight before getting a title shot and can barely get up to 155

David Lemieux won't be champ for much longer

Daniel Jacobs seems to be the only legitimate champ because he is actually making legit title defenses

I was with you until this...what?

Jacobs is literally the definition of a paper champion. Heck, he isn't even a real champion in the eyes of his own organisation lol

If anything, Lem has a better first defense than Jacobs has a career

**Lester Tutor** · 10-03-2015, 08:24 AM

What's also funny is that there are many here that say the WBA is garbage (when contextualizing Broner vs Khabib), OR that the IBO doesn't mean anything because it's not part of the Super 4. Meaning, when Chavez Jr. fought a seasoned LHW Fonfara, a former IBO holder and went the distance with A. Stevenson, it still doesn't count because a Chavez Jr. hater's logic supersedes any empirical merit.

hashtag WBA IBO

**Dirk Diggler UK** · 10-03-2015, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop

For champions we have:

a weak chinned Andy Lee

GGG who in his first 14 title defenses only fought a few in the top 10

Miguel Cotto who never fought at middleweight before getting a title shot and can barely get up to 155

David Lemieux won't be champ for much longer

Daniel Jacobs seems to be the only legitimate champ because he is actually making legit title defenses

Lol....wut? You were going well up until that last sentence.

**Lester Tutor** · 10-03-2015, 08:37 AM

I am very sensitive to Danny Jacobs though. Surpassing some crazy bone cancer and then coming back to win a paper-belt. No sarcasm. I truly admire that guys heart and athletic determination. Boxing is a difficult sport.

**Mr.MojoRisin'** · 10-03-2015, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by soul_survivor

I was with you until this...what?

Jacobs is literally the definition of a paper champion. Heck, he isn't even a real champion in the eyes of his own organisation lol

If anything, Lem has a better first defense than Jacobs has a career

I agree that Jacobs has had a ****ty career but I said that because he is fighting Quillin in December.

**b00g13man** · 10-03-2015, 08:42 AM

Lol @ Danny Jacobs. You ruined it with that.

**MDPopescu** · 10-03-2015, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop

We are in a Weak Middleweight Era

... This while the junior middleweight and super middleweight divisions a really strong, right?

**Mr.MojoRisin'** · 10-03-2015, 08:46 AM

He fought Mora and Traux. I figured I had to shed some light on all the ****.

**Mr.MojoRisin'** · 10-03-2015, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by MDPopescu

... This while the junior middleweight and super middleweight divisions a really strong, right?

When was Super Middleweight ever strong?

We are in a Weak Middleweight Era