Right Now...Who Are Your Top 5 ATG Boxers?
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Hey i'm so sorry to hear about your uncle ("Sugar Ray Shorter"). The one that was trained by Henry Armstrong accomplished alot! Shoot in those days & to be inducted into the hall of fame in Washington D.C. You should be proud. This game is hard as a mother****er!!! Thanks.
Thanks man!...My uncle did ok...heard he had a good punch...he did good enough to be inducted into the Washington, DC Boxing Hall Of Fame and I had another uncle my moms bro who was an amateur bantamweight champ but he was gunned down in DC in '93...his name was Leonard and SRL was his favorite fighter...he named himself "Sugar Leonard Shorter" after SRL...lol...his big brothers would get him to beat their bullies...h looked like SRL too...thanks man good memories...I'm crying right now thinking bout how I lost him...back then I didn't cry on some macho sh-t but years later it's coming out...Comment
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Thanks man!...I really appreciate that and I am very proud! My nephews are training...they are 18 and 15 this month and Seth Mitchell's mom works @their high school...the 18 year old use to train @Dusty Harrison's dad's gym in Maryland...I gotta get him back up there because we need new fighters in the family!...Hey i'm so sorry to hear about your uncle ("Sugar Ray Shorter"). The one that was trained by Henry Armstrong accomplished alot! Shoot in those days & to be inducted into the hall of fame in Washington D.C. You should be proud. This game is hard as a mother****er!!! Thanks.Comment
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1)Roberto Duran- No one better at lightweight and his ability to move up and overcome great odds often. Just ferocious and skilled at the same time. Perfect mix of offense and defense.
2)Joe Louis- Great offensive fighter and skilled in the art of the knockout. Made 25 defenses in an era of 8 world titles, a record which remains unmatched. Took on everybody and always exciting to watch.
3)Jack Dempsey- His ferocity in the ring and style made him a force in the ring as he dispatched numerous opponents with bad intentions. Beat big men with ease, crushing them with his unreal power.
4)Ray Robinson- Could box and move and had great power. Fought over two hundred times in a tough era and always entertaining.
5)Rocky Marciano- The Rock's relentless pursuits in the ring made him a very fun fighter to watch. He would hit a guy's arms just to tire him out and his toughness and power were unreal, especially considering how he almost always fought bigger guys.
When considering these, I had to consider the fighters themselves at their peaks and could I see anybody beating them along with entertainment value followed by accomplishments. I think from a historical perspective, it really does matter what a fighter gave us. Great or not, if they made for boring fights, they don't rank as high on my list. I never found the more defensive fights that exciting. A hardcore fan can enjoy their craft, but the average person would fall asleep and that does not add to boxing's legacy.Comment
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Great list! I love how Fitzsimmons and Dempsey used the shifting technique. Well hell, they invented it! Haha. It's too bad more fighters do not use this technique anymore as it can be highly effective at setting up position and cutting off the ring. So many fights I have seen show one guy running away and the other guy following in step. If he shifted on those feet and put one foot in front of another, he would close that gap and put the opponent in a world of trouble.Comment
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i can respect your list as a right to an opinion..I go back and forth debating who my top 5 atg boxers are at the moment...I try to take into account the boxers skills, wins, heart, killer instinct and impact or influence on society at the time of their reign...so here is my current top 5 atg boxers which is subject to change as awareness expands...but this is where my heart is today for my top 5 atg boxers and the list goes like this...
1. Jack Johnson - Fought during racist era and did what he wanted...fought 25 round fights or more...first Black Heavyweight Champion of the world. Jack Johnson needs to be pardoned imho.
2. Muhammad Ali - Nobody mastered the art of trash talking like Muhammad Ali especially during a time of segregation and Jim Crow laws. Muhammad Ali at the age of 21 won the Heavyweight Championship of the world and declared himself to be The Greatest Fighter Of All Time. His skills spoke for itself but he also backed it up in the ring as he floated like a butterfly and stung his opponents like a bee...
3. Floyd Mayweather, Jr - Much Like Muhammad Ali, Floyd Mayweather, Jr mastered the art of trash talking but also playing mind games with his opponents and then dismantling them in the ring scientifically much to the chagrin of his haters but a showing masterpiece in hitting and not getting hit to boxing purists alike...Just like Muhammad Ali in his day, Floyd claims to be "TBE" or simply put "The Best Ever", time may tell him to be a teller of Truth...
4. Mike Tyson - If there was one power I could have...it would be to punch as hard as Mike Tyson. Tyson had burst on the boxing scene (no pun) with sensational knock out after knock out with also one of the most rude and outspoken personalities. Mike was one of the few boxers who possessed a true "killer instinct" as he was a killer in the ring.
5. Which brings me to my #5 whom I may get flack for but f^ck it...
Edwin Valero - I've never seen a guy fight as psycho and straightforward with such intensity as Edwin Valero. Yes it was f^cked up what he did but he had mental problems to say the least...sometimes boxing is the only thing that can keep one from hurting someone illegally or killing them illegally. Unfortunately it didn't prevent Edwin from doing what he did. My heart goes out to him and his wife and child(ren) but he was a joy to watch in the ring as he had no fear in him and could crack like a mule's kick and truly exemplified the "killer instinct" in the ring and unfortunate he took that mentality out of the ring as mentioned before...
That's my current list and maybe for a while or may change as time goes on...
Right Now...Who Are Your Top 5 ATG Boxers?
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thanks.....Whats you thoughts on GGG-Lemiuex???
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