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  • #71
    Originally posted by wlliam View Post
    One win is all it takes to become the best, im not implying that Cotto is the "best" but his one win over Sergio is a better win than all the top MWs have at the current moment, if that makes any sense. .but yeah i agree Sergio wasnt at his best and i dont think Cotto could ever beat a prime Sergio, especially not the one that went up and unseated Pavlik. Maravilla was a special talent, Top 3 of the past decade IMO ...ill never give Cotto full credit for win. As for GGG i think he has very solid wins and im of the mind that Cotto has indeed ducked the heck outta him..dude it couldnt be more clear, but as it stands right now, Cotto would be a better win for Floyd than Cotto, based on who theyve beaten which is how wins are rated and measured. Its about upside man.
    No, Floyd beating Miguel wouldn't be a better win than GGG. But Floyd being the cherry picker he is and if he wanted a middleweight title I agree he would opt for Miguel or Canelo. Just like if you beat Randolph turpin it wouldn't be a better win for you than if you beat SRR, even after SRR loss to Randolph. Just like Holyfields win over Buster Douglas wont be all that revered. His wins over Tyson are. Holyfield was underdog against Tyson just like I would expect Miguel to be against GGG. There all likelihood Floyd would be favourite against Miguel at middleweight even. You cant say that against GGG where Floyd would be underdog.
    So don't reply to me again. I cant keep hitting you over the head with it. Stop being a Floyd fanboy and think with your head not your heart.
    Last edited by hugh grant; 10-01-2015, 04:28 AM.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by wlliam View Post
      Ok, 1st im gonna address "Khan beating Algieri, Alexander and Collazo is better than anything Maidana or Berto has done @147" Algieri a 140lber who isnt rated at WW. Alexander a solid WW win but not to be confused with his past form, pre-Porter, usually after fighters lose their rating dips which why i dont rate that win too high. Collazo-lost his title back in 2007...its 2015 now. Again not to he confused with his past form, pre-08. Cmon man, none of the guys were considered even remotely close to being the best at the time Khan fought em.

      Maidana of 2014 was of better form and standing than Collazo, Alexander at the time khan fought em. Algieri wasnt rated at WW.

      Berto? Dude hes more accomplished more than Khan at WW but im not gonna justify Floyd picking him..nobody can. Im especially not gonna confuse his past form with his current form and standing, its ironic that a Khantrrd would be so critical of things of that nature.

      Maidana getn the Floyd fight? Hmm ive always kind of critical of that fight, i believe Porter should have rightfully gotten one of those '14 dates..IMO Porter over Alexander for the IBF strap > than Maidana over Broner for the WBC...even then Maidana beating Broner is better than Khan beating Molina so Maidana getn the Floyd fight was more justifiable.
      You only discredited but didn't address how anything Maidana or Berto has done that better than Khans wins.

      Put it this way, Khan beating (totally out boxing) Alexander is better than anything Maidana or Berto has done. And you can say Berto is more accomplished etc, he has xyz title defenses, but still doesn't change the fact he does not have a better win than Khan at WW.
      Regarding Collazo, Khan fought him when Collazo was coming off his best win of his career.
      Algieri might not have previous at 147, but it pretty clear to see he is a 147 fighter. IMO, he will win a title in the future.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        No, Floyd beating Miguel wouldn't be a better win than GGG. But Floyd being the cherry picker he is and if he wanted a middleweight title I agree he would opt for Miguel or Canelo. Just like if you beat Randolph turpin it wouldn't be a better win for you than if you beat SRR, even after SRR loss to Randolph. Just like Holyfields win over Buster Douglas wont be all that revered. His wins over Tyson are. Holyfield was underdog against Tyson just like I would expect Miguel to be against GGG. There all likelihood Floyd would be favourite against Miguel at middleweight even. You cant say that against GGG where Floyd would be underdog.
        So don't reply to me again. I cant keep hitting you over the head with it. Stop being a Floyd fanboy and think with your head not your heart.
        SRR, Randolf, Holyfield, Douglas, Tyson? Nice job taking my post completely outta context once again. Im approaching this topic with how wins are measured in boxing. Dude i think GGG is good opponent im not denying that, im just rating him for what hes done up until this point not for what he can potentially accomplish. Dont freakn get ur panties all twisted up bcuz i dont agree with you or see things exactly the way you do.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Slick_Rick View Post
          You only discredited but didn't address how anything Maidana or Berto has done that better than Khans wins.

          Put it this way, Khan beating (totally out boxing) Alexander is better than anything Maidana or Berto has done. And you can say Berto is more accomplished etc, he has xyz title defenses, but still doesn't change the fact he does not have a better win than Khan at WW.
          Regarding Collazo, Khan fought him when Collazo was coming off his best win of his career.
          Algieri might not have previous at 147, but it pretty clear to see he is a 147 fighter. IMO, he will win a title in the future.
          Ok Algieri, Collazo, Alexander were all at the very top at WW when Khan defeated em..u happy? You know dam well they werent

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          • #75
            Originally posted by wlliam View Post
            Ok Algieri, Collazo, Alexander were all at the very top at WW when Khan defeated em..u happy? You know dam well they werent


            You try to justify why Khan should not fight Floyd, as there seem it be some sort of standard to be at in order to fight him, yet you cant reason why some of his other opponents got to fight him.

            Were they the best they could be, i think so, only Algieri i see improving.

            Were they the best WW outside of Floyd or Manny, no, but Alexander is better than anything Berto or Maidana has beaten at WW.

            I am happy, yes, as i am right, but already knew that, and so do you.

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