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  • #61
    Originally posted by wlliam View Post
    Im getn the sense that ur rating GGG for his potential instead of rating him for what hes done(which is how boxing works). Hypothetically speaking, if Floyd was to go up to MW Cotto would be a better option than GGG. Look man, fighters are measured by the opponents theyve beat and who theyve beat. So Cotto defeated Martinez who beat Williams, Pavlik, Cintron, Barker, etc.,. I dont rate Geale for either. Then you have GGG who beat Geale, Rubio, Stevens, Monroe, Murray....you see what im getn at? Based on who theyve beaten, Cotto would be a better win for Floyd at MW. I like GGG and i know he can potentially unify the division but we gotta rate for what hes done rather than rate him for his potential, which has yet to be fulfilled...feel me?
    This is just so clichéd and wrong. Especially the Cotto defeated Martinez who beat Williams, who beat Pavlik etc etc. GGG has beaten middleweights for most of his career and would be favourite against Miguel. What you did with Miguel beat the man who beat the man was done with Ali as an example. And at the end of the triangle theory or link a real bum was supposedly greater than Ali so it is just so wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to start on that one. Basically, Miguel has one win at middleweight, and GGG has a ton of wins.
    GGG would be a better win than Miguel, but you already know that. I wont believe it took me to tell you that, I don't buy that for one minute. Beating Miguel certainly wouldn't be a waste of time for Floyd though. When trying to compare Floyd to Duran or SRL Floyd must do all he can. Every little bit helps.
    Last edited by hugh grant; 09-30-2015, 06:40 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Slick_Rick View Post
      Stylistically he gives Floyd a test, theres a reason why Floyd ducked him twice, instead he favored Maidana and then Berto. What did Maidana or Berto do to earn their shot?
      Ill consider the "styles make fights" angle when Khans beating guys from a high level...but hes not.

      Answer this, has Maidana or Berto ever held a 147lb title? Has Khan???

      Look Khan doesnt have credentials at 147...we can talk about his 140lb credentials but we cant leave out Garcia taking em.

      The phrase "Floyd ducked Garcia" holds more weight than "Floyd ducked Khan" and you know why

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      • #63
        Why do people keep asking him? I thought they wanted him gone?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          This is just so clichéd and wrong. Especially the Cotto defeated Martinez who beat Williams, who beat Pavlik etc etc. GGG has beaten middleweights for most of his career and would be favourite against Miguel. What you did with Miguel beat the man who beat the man was done with Ali as an example. And at the end of the triangle theory or link a real bum was supposedly greater than Ali so it is just so wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to start on that one. Basically, Miguel has one win at middleweight, and GGG has a ton of wins.
          GGG would be a better win than Miguel, but you already know that. I wont believe it took me to tell you that, I don't buy that for one minute. Beating Miguel certainly wouldn't be a waste of time for Floyd though. When trying to compare Floyd to Duran or SRL Floyd must do all he can. Every little bit helps.
          GGG WOULD be favored over Cotto? Again, ur rating GGG for what he hasnt done. He hasnt beat Cotto yet and he hasnt unified the division...he can potentially do it but until that happens we just have to rate him for what hes done. Ali, SRL? Nice job taking my post outta context.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by wlliam View Post
            GGG WOULD be favored over Cotto? Again, ur rating GGG for what he hasnt done. He hasnt beat Cotto yet and he hasnt unified the division...he can potentially do it but until that happens we just have to rate him for what hes done. Ali, SRL? Nice job taking my post outta context.
            Im rating GGG for what he hasn't done? So if I said Cotto would beat GGG at middleweight wouldn't I be rating Cotto for what he hasn't done?

            Miguel has had one fight at middleweight. Not taking anything away from Miguel as I like him a lot, but Sergio wasn't at his best. Hard to judge Miguel on one fight. So don't judge Miguel for what he hasn't done. He has potential. GGG has pretty much beat everyone at middleweight.

            If Floyd wants true respect he would have to fight GGG. Not a guy who he already beat in Miguel. Who many have beat. It might not be fair but once your beat quite a lot you are viewed as somebodys leftovers.
            Last edited by hugh grant; 09-30-2015, 06:57 PM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by wlliam View Post
              Ill consider the "styles make fights" angle when Khans beating guys from a high level...but hes not.

              Answer this, has Maidana or Berto ever held a 147lb title? Has Khan???

              Look Khan doesnt have credentials at 147...we can talk about his 140lb credentials but we cant leave out Garcia taking em.

              The phrase "Floyd ducked Garcia" holds more weight than "Floyd ducked Khan" and you know why
              You are clearly high on Floyd..Whatever you want to say about Khan, Floyd himself conducted his own poll on who he should fight, Maidana or Khan. Khan won and Floyd went against it. Floyd obviously saw value in him to do such a thing. Maidana's best win at WW is Broner, who won a title from Malignaggi, who Khan beat the break offs, at Malignaggi best weight. Khan has also beaten Maidana and Alexander who beat Maidana, way easier than Floyd did.

              Kahn beating Algieri, Alexander and Collazo (convincingly) is better than anything Maidana or Berto has done at WW.

              And the fact you are saying because Berto has held a title at WW is a reason why he deserved shot is reaching....hes not even in the top 10.

              Do you think Floyd fought Hatton because of his WW run? Absolutely not, he looked like trash at WW, and was gifted a title so don't even use that as a argument.
              Last edited by Slick_Rick; 09-30-2015, 07:22 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by STAX ON DECK View Post
                =[==^^^^==]^^

                and this my frends is why the paper keep stackin while the haters keeps hatin,,
                No, nobody hating. Lol I hope he stays retired. That's not hating. Hating is saying he has to come back and fight GGG and then Kovalev or else he's a coward and is not TBE or an ATG or whatever else ya call him. I'm not saying that. I'm says that he's good, so good that he keep his ass retired.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Slick_Rick View Post
                  You are clearly high on Floyd..Whatever you want to say about Khan, Floyd himself conducted his own poll on who he should fight, Maidana or Khan. Khan won and Floyd went against it. Floyd obviously saw value in him to do such a thing. Maidana's best win at WW is Broner, who won a title from Malignaggi, who Khan beat the break offs, at Malignaggi best weight. Khan has also beaten Maidana and Alexander who beat Maidana, way easier than Floyd did.

                  Kahn beating Algieri, Alexander and Collazo (convincingly) is better than anything Maidana or Berto has done at WW.

                  And the fact you are saying because Berto has held a title at WW is a reason why he deserved shot is reaching....hes not even in the top 10.

                  Do you think Floyd fought Hatton because of his WW run? Absolutely not, he looked like trash at WW, and was gifted a title so don't even use that as a argument.
                  Ok, 1st im gonna address "Khan beating Algieri, Alexander and Collazo is better than anything Maidana or Berto has done @147" Algieri a 140lber who isnt rated at WW. Alexander a solid WW win but not to be confused with his past form, pre-Porter, usually after fighters lose their rating dips which why i dont rate that win too high. Collazo-lost his title back in 2007...its 2015 now. Again not to he confused with his past form, pre-08. Cmon man, none of the guys were considered even remotely close to being the best at the time Khan fought em.

                  Maidana of 2014 was of better form and standing than Collazo, Alexander at the time khan fought em. Algieri wasnt rated at WW.

                  Berto? Dude hes more accomplished more than Khan at WW but im not gonna justify Floyd picking him..nobody can. Im especially not gonna confuse his past form with his current form and standing, its ironic that a Khantrrd would be so critical of things of that nature.

                  Maidana getn the Floyd fight? Hmm ive always kind of critical of that fight, i believe Porter should have rightfully gotten one of those '14 dates..IMO Porter over Alexander for the IBF strap > than Maidana over Broner for the WBC...even then Maidana beating Broner is better than Khan beating Molina so Maidana getn the Floyd fight was more justifiable.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by STAX ON DECK View Post
                    said literally 0 pac fans...

                    bruh, you are paranoid

                    i dont like them either but this was just a ****** post, ive never seen a pac fan claim that pac is really "undefeated"
                    He is being sarcastic for christ sake , let the reigns out you will break your horses neck .

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                      Im rating GGG for what he hasn't done? So if I said Cotto would beat GGG at middleweight wouldn't I be rating Cotto for what he hasn't done?

                      Miguel has had one fight at middleweight. Not taking anything away from Miguel as I like him a lot, but Sergio wasn't at his best. Hard to judge Miguel on one fight. So don't judge Miguel for what he hasn't done. He has potential. GGG has pretty much beat everyone at middleweight.

                      If Floyd wants true respect he would have to fight GGG. Not a guy who he already beat in Miguel. Who many have beat. It might not be fair but once your beat quite a lot you are viewed as somebodys leftovers.
                      One win is all it takes to become the best, im not implying that Cotto is the "best" but his one win over Sergio is a better win than all the top MWs have at the current moment, if that makes any sense. .but yeah i agree Sergio wasnt at his best and i dont think Cotto could ever beat a prime Sergio, especially not the one that went up and unseated Pavlik. Maravilla was a special talent, Top 3 of the past decade IMO ...ill never give Cotto full credit for win. As for GGG i think he has very solid wins and im of the mind that Cotto has indeed ducked the heck outta him..dude it couldnt be more clear, but as it stands right now, Cotto would be a better win for Floyd than Cotto, based on who theyve beaten which is how wins are rated and measured. Its about upside man.

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