Honest question do you think manny was injured since the Oscar fight?

[nveleven]

That's the worst thing about losing to a fighter like Floyd. You just can't do anything about it, so mentally, you have to make up a reason for the failure.

You people are something, man. Floyd won in the ugliest way possible, true. But you act like he dominated.
So you're telling me that if the roles were reversed and each fighter fought like the other that night, you'd be going around saying that Floyd got schooled by Manny?
No. You'd be arguing that manny was cheating, or fighting scared (as floyd's own dad exclaimed in damn near tears), etc...
I'm a huge manny fan, and he lost that night, no doubt. But dominated mentally or physically? Please.

[Reloaded]

You people are something, man. Floyd won in the ugliest way possible, true. But you act like he dominated.
So you're telling me that if the roles were reversed and each fighter fought like the other that night, you'd be going around saying that Floyd got schooled by Manny?
No. You'd be arguing that manny was cheating, or fighting scared (as floyd's own dad exclaimed in damn near tears), etc...
I'm a huge manny fan, and he lost that night, no doubt. But dominated mentally or physically? Please.

When Manny is supposed to be the most aggressive thrashing machine on the planet and for 5 yrs his fans are screaming he will over whelm and destroy Floyd .

Then yes it is a domination when Floyd can shut Manny down to a peep nobody has been able to do that to Manny over his entire career , look at it from the point of what Manny was reduced to , not from a destruction point of view , thats the thing with being objective you have got to look closely at the fighters in question and what fighter executed his game plan and what fighter failed totally .



Floyd did what he always does , Manny could not do sht , thats a dominate win to Floyd .

[Cinci Champ]

i mean its possible but the thing thats going over everyones head is all fighters deal with injuries for years and years

[Lets_Get_It_On!]

After what you wrote in that first paragraph, please look in the mirror. The dumbest part is a Floyd fan thinking that relatively speaking "Floyd whipped Manny" and use the Marquez fight example in the same sentence.

Sigh. Don't pull strawman tactics considering my last post was particularly and empirically based on Chino, not Marquez.

If you want to talk Marquez we can talk Marquez and relating to Floyd. But if you want to debate why Chino's initial Majority Decision overrules Pac's Unanimous Decision then let's debate. Don't run away and bring up Marquez...

I already told you Floyd beat the man that beat the man. I admit your attempt is a good sneaky one... as if Floyd's boxing lesson on Marquez wasn't as good as putting Pac to sleep. lol. They were both great fights from a boxing fans perspective!

My initial post that you responded to was on Marquez/Floyd not Maidana. Still, I said what I said about Maidana since you brought it up. FLoyd got the Nevada judges to give him the win. What a surprise.

To bring up the version of Marquez FLoyd fought is a joke and still, Floyd was not taking any chances against the guy that was fighting at 130 about a year before.


Marquez said it best:
"If that fight is proposed and the conditions are acceptable, then of course [I would do it]. But we all know how things are done when fighting Mayweather in Las Vegas. In that city the officials protect him, let him do everything. Fighting him there is a burden,"

"Look, do you know how Mayweather can be beaten? Only by knockout, and how can you knock out an opponent who does not want to fight, who doesn't throw punches, and hits you with a jab and you may have won the round but they still give it to him?"

[nveleven]

When Manny is supposed to be the most aggressive thrashing machine on the planet and for 5 yrs his fans are screaming he will over whelm and destroy Floyd .

Then yes it is a domination when Floyd can shut Manny down to a peep nobody has been able to do that to Manny over his entire career , look at it from the point of what Manny was reduced to , not from a destruction point of view , thats the thing with being objective you have got to look closely at the fighters in question and what fighter executed his game plan and what fighter failed totally .



Floyd did what he always does , Manny could not do sht , thats a dominate win to Floyd .

I hear you, and I agree in part. But both fighters reduced each other to the lowest punch output in either fighter's entire career, no?
I mean, if I'm being objective, I have to consider what Floyd was reduced to as well.
It seemed to me that both recognized the threat that the other posed, and both realized that their entire careers would be measured (by many) by the outcome of that fight.
I just fail to see a dominant performance by Floyd here. And I'm sure manny genuinely felt the same way after. I'm sure he went in expecting to take punishment at some point. Both fighters walked away unscathed

[Reloaded]

I hear you, and I agree in part. But both fighters reduced each other to the lowest punch output in either fighter's entire career, no?
I mean, if I'm being objective, I have to consider what Floyd was reduced to as well.
It seemed to me that both recognized the threat that the other posed, and both realized that their entire careers would be measured (by many) by the outcome of that fight.
I just fail to see a dominant performance by Floyd here. And I'm sure manny genuinely felt the same way after. I'm sure he went in expecting to take punishment at some point. Both fighters walked away unscathed

There is no doubting the class that was in that ring , when match racing great racehorses or Greyhounds or people they generally cross the line very close to each other .

If Manny or Floyd were in with lesser opponents that night it probably would have a been a clear 120-110 win , the thing I hate is how the fanboys in here try to belittle the winner , they are both special champions somebody was right somebody was wrong it would be nice for people to just face up to that .

[tangalog2200]

Exactly. So just say you had injury before hand. Show evidence of an injury before hand. Then let the commission decide on fight night to go with it. This way at least the judging world can then say, ah, his rotator cuff was messed up and for years...at least that's honorable. It's not a 100 yes or no questionaire...

Or, instead, we show the world all these ridiculous inconsistent lies or excuses...but as we all know...it's the first time Top Rank has looked so sharp in making up excuses.

This is why everybody is just face palmed. Top Rank knew it. HBO knew it. So they come up with Hauser for malicious retaliation. Quite simple.

Regarding the IV, I have some info that is going to smash everyone's reasoning towards Floyd but I am saving that for a rainy day!

You choose.

i really like this one....

please allow me to edit:

Exactly. So just say you were dehydrated before hand. Show evidence of dehydration before hand. Then let the commission decide....


"Regarding the IV, I have some info that is going to smash everyone's reasoning towards Floyd but I am saving that for a rainy day!"

oh oh, saving for a rainy day! seems like more of buying time..tmt..tue, medication technicians...

[tangalog2200]

And if so was he using Toradol before all of his fights?

nice try, larry...

what a very nice diversion from the iv scandal threads...

hope you get over 3k posts..

[Lester Tutor]

oh oh, saving for a rainy day! seems like more of buying time..tmt..tue, medication technicians...

Tacky.

[Reloaded]

nice try, larry...

what a very nice diversion from the iv scandal threads...

hope you get over 3k posts..

Toradol is no diversion its been used by Manny since 2009 , the thing is you fanboys run away from that fact , your Floyd BS is the real diversion .