Honest question do you think manny was injured since the Oscar fight?

[Lets_Get_It_On!]

yeah but in boxing there's a term called ''the man who beat the man.''

Floyd vs Manny was a close fight that had little action and was boring and the one who had the highlight moments was actually Manny punching Floyd. Many close rounds where the judges gave it to Floyd.

The other fight, while Manny was winning, Marquez had one of those moments that you will see once in every decade. That was a devstating KO. Floyd was tentative the whole freaking fight against Manny. His own father said that he was fighting scared.



BTW - At the time, Marquez had no business fighting at 147 but Floyd took advantage of Marquez wanting the fight ......

[Lets_Get_It_On!]

Or better yet, you create a WADA based thread, and you ask everyone with endless pages going, yet not one soul gives reasoning as to why Top Rank refused WADA style testing. But as Dan Rafael said on ESPN, that Manny wasn't obligated to draw blood under the rules of the NSAC. Those were his exact words.

Then the thread dies down because cowardice prevails! They bring up Floyd. It may seem like an X vs Y scenario. But there's too many on Top Rank over the years that your questions in starting a thread would have no substance against Top Rank.

How do I know this? Because I'm creating a documentary on it!

Manny at least based it on experience of the Morales fight in that he gave blood close to the fight and he said he believed that made him feel weaker. Still, Manny never said that he didn't want to do more testing. Just didn't like Floyd's accusing Manny of taking PEDs and bringing up new rules ...... it became a negotiation, its not really Olympic testing, got it?

Furthermore, we have Ellerbe and Floyd backing up Manny's statements now.
"Giving blood dehydrated Floyd"




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[Lester Tutor]

Floyd vs Manny was a close fight that had little action and was boring and the one who had the highlight moments was actually Manny punching Floyd. Many close rounds where the judges gave it to Floyd.

It's second nature for loving Fanatic Pac fans in finding reasoning but...

The reality and the sad truth is that Marcos Maidana did WAY more than Manny Pacquiao. Maidana literally give it all for the fight of his life. How many times did Chino get Floyd on the ropes vs Pacquiao? Rope-a-dope ? How about punch stats for Chino vs Pac?

Also Chino if the 2nd fight if I'm not mistaken landed a menacing overhand right straight to Floyd face and he ATE IT! Floyd was stunned. Had it not been the late rounds Floyd would've been in trouble...perhaps clinging to the longest....Floyd rarely ever gets hit like that throughout his span which is why he is immune to brutal landings. That's my opinion. As Floyd sat down on his stool he was still feeling that shock. Watch the tape. He was dazed.

[Lester Tutor]

Manny at least based it on experience of the Morales fight in that he gave blood close to the fight and he said he believed that made him feel weaker. Still, Manny never said that he didn't want to do more testing. Just didn't like Floyd's accusing Manny of taking PEDs and bringing up new rules ...... it became a negotiation, its not really Olympic testing, got it?

Furthermore, we have Ellerbe and Floyd backing up Manny's statements now.
"Giving blood dehydrated Floyd"


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You are still confused. You don't even have to contextualize a Morales fight...however for the Morales fiasco I have plenty of nice videos surrounding that...No, it's the beautiful seasoning of excuses by Roach and Top Rank that they have no idea nor care for accountability. They are too busy in business, yes, money, that wouldn't think of the wonders of Youtube down the line.

[Lets_Get_It_On!]

It's second nature for loving Fanatic Pac fans in finding reasoning but...

The reality and the sad truth is that Marcos Maidana did WAY more than Manny Pacquiao. Maidana literally give it all for the fight of his life. How many times did Chino get Floyd on the ropes vs Pacquiao? Rope-a-dope ? How about punch stats for Chino vs Pac?

Also Chino if the 2nd fight if I'm not mistaken landed a menacing overhand right straight to Floyd face and he ATE IT! Floyd was stunned. Had it not been the late rounds Floyd would've been in trouble...perhaps clinging to the longest....Floyd rarely ever gets hit like that throughout his span which is why he is immune to brutal landings. That's my opinion. As Floyd sat down on his stool he was still feeling that shock. Watch the tape. He was dazed.

Maidana should have gotten a better score but its FLoyd and Vegas so its to be expected that Floyd gets rounds that should go to the opponent. So you are agreeing with me.

There are plenty of close rounds where Manny could have and in some of them should have gotten the round.

Going by memory, rounds 2,3,7,12 could have gone to Manny. Watch those rounds. You give 2 of those rounds and it becomes a draw. 3 Manny wins. You give 1 only and its a 115-113 fight.

In the Marquez fight, you can give all the rounds except 2 to Manny but at the end, there is no dis*****g who won.

Go do a poll and let me know which one was more convincing a win. The one your hero won in an uneventful fashion or the Marquez win. I expect a landslide!!!

[Lester Tutor]

Maidana should have gotten a better score but its FLoyd and Vegas so its to be expected that Floyd gets rounds that should go to the opponent. So you are agreeing with me.

There are plenty of close rounds where Manny could have and in some of them should have gotten the round.

Going by memory, rounds 2,3,7,12 could have gone to Manny. Watch those rounds. You give 2 of those rounds and it becomes a draw. 3 Manny wins. You give 1 only and its a 115-113 fight.

In the Marquez fight, you can give all the rounds except 2 to Manny but at the end, there is no dis*****g who won.

Go do a poll and let me know which one was more convincing a win. The one your hero won in an uneventful fashion or the Marquez win. I expect a landslide!!!

Sigh. Don't pull strawman tactics considering my last post was particularly and empirically based on Chino, not Marquez.

If you want to talk Marquez we can talk Marquez and relating to Floyd. But if you want to debate why Chino's initial Majority Decision overrules Pac's Unanimous Decision then let's debate. Don't run away and bring up Marquez...

I already told you Floyd beat the man that beat the man. I admit your attempt is a good sneaky one... as if Floyd's boxing lesson on Marquez wasn't as good as putting Pac to sleep. lol. They were both great fights from a boxing fans perspective!

[PAC-BOY]

Floyd UD 12

The only reason you wallow around with that like a ***** with a new **** in his hand is because the inability to see greatness in anything in life.

Like being with a woman. Youd know nothing about that or how great that is. Thats why you prefer the Hershey highway or bumbling nuts over being with a woman.

Make a deal with you. You leave Boxing to us who knows it best and Ill leave slapping nuts while pounding a man in his ass to the one who does know it best...You!

Deal

[New England]

no, but i'm extremely su****ious of manny, particularly during his run with alex ariza as his S and C coach.

[IMDAZED]

Or maybe he's just been taking that medicine for that long.

[New England]

i like where the floydian rhetoric is heading.


"yeah, floyd probably cheated, but so did manny."


it's not a full acknowledgement that they've been sucking another man's c#ck for 6+ years, but its a start.


we're growing, floydians. we're growing.