Comments Thread For: Froch: Andre Ward is P4P 1, Golovkin Not in My Top Ten

[aboutfkntime]

What in God's name am I looking at here?

The criteria was flash and arrogance.

That list is his personal opinion, just like everyone elses list.

Its a good flash/arrogance P4P list.

That is my point, he can justify those inclusions because the criteria has been defined..... but what criteria can possibly be used to place Golovkin ahead of Manny Pacquiao?

That is my whole point, he provided a great example.

P4P lists are only one mans opinion, and usually the criteria is not defined.

Truth be known, considering the fact that the criteria was defined, his list is more accurate than TheRing's.

[aboutfkntime]

HeroBando reads those quotes in bed with his girlfriend.

After he inflates her of course.

[aboutfkntime]

I just posted the salient part, the hard hitting stuff. What, now I have to post entire interviews just so as not to hurt your fragile feelings?

..... the stuff that suited your spin at the time

[aboutfkntime]

No, you seem confused. Ggg would be bigger than now, if we were pitting him vs SMWs in a p4p sense. So if Froch won't face him with the size advantage, imagine if they were closer in size.

You mean, like how Cotto/Canelo would not weigh 155 if they were real middleweights, or if they actually fought in the middleweight division like you guys try to make out?

I asked you, seriously what fkn middleweight weighs 155?

Now you get the point, but painfully too late.

Yes, GGG would weigh more than 160 given the time to acclimate at SMW..... just like how Canelo would weigh 160 if he was a middleweight, and just like how Cotto would weigh more than 153 if he was a middleweight.

Now, you get it lmao.

[Finito2K]

whoever has GGG top ten p4p is a moron


there are too many fighters with similar or more talent and they have far better resumes than he has


this dude is 34 years old and never beat 1 reigning champion or major titleholder.......won a "regular" title.....was elevated to full champion status.

Only former or current titleholders he has beat in 33 fights is a shot Kassim Ouma, Daniel Geale......that's not the stuff that make a p4p guy....He has to actually beat an elite fighter to get that status

Ward was out because of injury and Managerial issues, he earned his place

and we already know what Ward is capable of....on the elite level their are more questions about GGG than Answers

In 2001, 36 year old Bernard Hopkins was the reigning IBF champ at 160. Prior to him fighting Felix Trinidad, the only other "elite" fighter he had faced was Roy Jones Jr. And despite losing to RJJ, Ring Magazine saw no problem with ranking Hopkins in its pound for pound rankings (#10 in 2000 and #2 in 2001).

So what's the big deal with GGG at #2 ? The guy is active and he's blowing away his competition. Now he's finally got a chance at performing on boxing's biggest stages. If anything, this is his time to shine.

As for Ward, he's only got himself to blame for his inactivity. Ward took Dan Goosen to court twice to get out of his contract and lost. All in the aftermath of his biggest victory (vs. Dawson). Makes no sense.

When it comes to pound for pound rankings, resumes mean little. It's always been a matter of what has a fighter done lately.

[Finito2K]

whoever has GGG top ten p4p is a moron


there are too many fighters with similar or more talent and they have far better resumes than he has


this dude is 34 years old and never beat 1 reigning champion or major titleholder.......won a "regular" title.....was elevated to full champion status.

Only former or current titleholders he has beat in 33 fights is a shot Kassim Ouma, Daniel Geale......that's not the stuff that make a p4p guy....He has to actually beat an elite fighter to get that status

Ward was out because of injury and Managerial issues, he earned his place

and we already know what Ward is capable of....on the elite level their are more questions about GGG than Answers

In 2001, 36 year old Bernard Hopkins was the reigning IBF champ at 160. Prior to him fighting Felix Trinidad, the only other "elite" fighter he had faced was Roy Jones Jr. And despite losing to RJJ, Ring Magazine saw no problem with ranking Hopkins in its pound for pound rankings (#10 in 2000 and #2 in 2001).

So what's the big deal with GGG at #2 ? The guy is active and he's blowing away his competition. Now he's finally got a chance at performing on boxing's biggest stages. If anything, this is his time to shine.

As for Ward, he's only got himself to blame for his inactivity. Ward took Dan Goosen to court twice to get out of his contract and lost. All in the aftermath of his biggest victory (vs. Dawson). Makes no sense.

When it comes to pound for pound rankings, resumes mean little. It's always been a matter of what has a fighter done lately.

[Finito2K]

Nothing new

whoever has GGG top ten p4p is a moron


there are too many fighters with similar or more talent and they have far better resumes than he has


this dude is 34 years old and never beat 1 reigning champion or major titleholder.......won a "regular" title.....was elevated to full champion status.

Only former or current titleholders he has beat in 33 fights is a shot Kassim Ouma, Daniel Geale......that's not the stuff that make a p4p guy....He has to actually beat an elite fighter to get that status

Ward was out because of injury and Managerial issues, he earned his place

and we already know what Ward is capable of....on the elite level their are more questions about GGG than Answers

In 2001, 36 year old Bernard Hopkins was the reigning IBF champ at 160. Prior to him fighting Felix Trinidad, the only other "elite" fighter he had faced was Roy Jones Jr. And despite losing to RJJ, Ring Magazine saw no problem with ranking Hopkins in its pound for pound rankings (#10 in 2000 and #2 in 2001).

So what's the big deal with GGG at #2 ? The guy is active and he's blowing away his competition. Now he's finally got a chance at performing on boxing's biggest stages. If anything, this is his time to shine.

As for Ward, he's only got himself to blame for his inactivity. Ward took Dan Goosen to court twice to get out of his contract and lost. All in the aftermath of his biggest victory (vs. Dawson). Makes no sense.

When it comes to pound for pound rankings, resumes mean little. It's always been a matter of what has a fighter done lately.

[Finito2K]

Nothing new

whoever has GGG top ten p4p is a moron


there are too many fighters with similar or more talent and they have far better resumes than he has


this dude is 34 years old and never beat 1 reigning champion or major titleholder.......won a "regular" title.....was elevated to full champion status.

Only former or current titleholders he has beat in 33 fights is a shot Kassim Ouma, Daniel Geale......that's not the stuff that make a p4p guy....He has to actually beat an elite fighter to get that status

Ward was out because of injury and Managerial issues, he earned his place

and we already know what Ward is capable of....on the elite level their are more questions about GGG than Answers

In 2001, 36 year old Bernard Hopkins was the reigning IBF champ at 160. Prior to him fighting Felix Trinidad, the only other "elite" fighter he had faced was Roy Jones Jr. And despite losing to RJJ, Ring Magazine saw no problem with ranking Hopkins in its pound for pound rankings (#10 in 2000 and #2 in 2001).

So what's the big deal with GGG at #2 ? The guy is active and he's blowing away his competition. Now he's finally got a chance at performing on boxing's biggest stages. If anything, this is his time to shine.

As for Ward, he's only got himself to blame for his inactivity. Ward took Dan Goosen to court twice to get out of his contract and lost. All in the aftermath of his biggest victory (vs. Dawson). Makes no sense.

When it comes to pound for pound rankings, resumes mean little. It's always been a matter of what has a fighter done lately.

[aboutfkntime]

In 2001, 36 year old Bernard Hopkins was the reigning IBF champ at 160. Prior to him fighting Felix Trinidad, the only other "elite" fighter he had faced was Roy Jones Jr. And despite losing to RJJ, Ring Magazine saw no problem with ranking Hopkins in its pound for pound rankings (#10 in 2000 and #2 in 2001).

So what's the big deal with GGG at #2 ? The guy is active and he's blowing away his competition. Now he's finally got a chance at performing on boxing's biggest stages. If anything, this is his time to shine.

As for Ward, he's only got himself to blame for his inactivity. Ward took Dan Goosen to court twice to get out of his contract and lost. All in the aftermath of his biggest victory (vs. Dawson). Makes no sense.

When it comes to pound for pound rankings, resumes mean little. It's always been a matter of what has a fighter done lately.

What has Golovkin done lately to justify ranking him above Pacquiao and Klitschko, or even Rigondeaux?

[Finito2K]

What has Golovkin done lately to justify ranking him above Pacquiao and Klitschko, or even Rigondeaux?

It's no secret that Sergio Martinez wanted no piece of Golovkin when he sat atop the division. Cotto has followed suit. So what has GGG done? Cleaned out the rest of the middleweight division (at least those willing to face him.). In the process, he is slowly building his brand via HBO's marketing machine.

Most fight fans will agree that Cotto is the lineal middleweight world champion (i.e. the man who beat the man). But regardless of that the consensus says that GGG stands out as the best middleweight in the world.

His standing in Ring's latest p4p rankings reflects that. We can criticize his recent opposition until our face turns blue. The fact remains that no elite middleweight is anxious to step in with GGG.

GGG has simply done what needs to be done. He's blown out his opposition while waiting on the likes of Cotto or whoever the division's top dog may be.