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  • Originally posted by justicia liga View Post
    No, they did not investigate.

    From "USADA’s Response to Numerous Substantial Inaccuracies and Misleading Information in Recent Online Article" in USADA's own webpage.

    As Mr. Bennett from the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) said on September 12th:

    “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever.”

    Just a declaration without necessary investigation.
    As expected!! Nothing will happen and PAC will just have to let it go.

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    • Originally posted by justicia liga View Post
      No, they did not investigate.

      From "USADA’s Response to Numerous Substantial Inaccuracies and Misleading Information in Recent Online Article" in USADA's own webpage.

      As Mr. Bennett from the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) said on September 12th:

      “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever.”

      Just a declaration without necessary investigation.
      Read the small sentence above the bold.....

      " Mr Mayweather has done nothing wrong "

      Lets not forget that part of your quote.

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      • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        Read the small sentence above the bold.....

        " Mr Mayweather has done nothing wrong "

        Lets not forget that part of your quote.
        why do you need TUE to do "nothing wrong" ?

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        • Originally posted by Rath View Post
          why do you need TUE to do "nothing wrong" ?
          " In some situations, an athlete may have an illnesses or condition that requires the use of medication listed on the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List. USADA can grant a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) in these situations in compliance with the World Anti-Doping Agency International Standard for TUEs. The TUE application process is thorough and designed to balance the need to provide athletes access to critical medication while protecting the rights of clean athletes to complete on a level playing field. "

          http://www.usada.org/substances/tue/

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          • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            " In some situations, an athlete may have an illnesses or condition that requires the use of medication listed on the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List. USADA can grant a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) in these situations in compliance with the World Anti-Doping Agency International Standard for TUEs. The TUE application process is thorough and designed to balance the need to provide athletes access to critical medication while protecting the rights of clean athletes to complete on a level playing field. "

            http://www.usada.org/substances/tue/
            bold clearly said prohibited, which means it is wrong.

            and to make it right you have to have TUE.

            which TMT or USADA filed 19 days later. meaning Floyd did something wrong from May 1 to May 18

            that is what is wrong.

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            • Originally posted by Rath View Post
              bold clearly said prohibited, which means it is wrong.

              and to make it right you have to have TUE.

              which TMT or USADA filed 19 days later. meaning Floyd did something wrong from May 1 to May 18

              that is what is wrong.
              It is prohibited, UNLESS a TUE is granted.

              Well, a TUE was granted.

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              • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                It is prohibited, UNLESS a TUE is granted.

                Well, a TUE was granted.
                and that was my point the first time around you said Floyd did nothing wrong.

                Well, he did. TUE corrected it 19 days later. a loop hole USADA and TMT was able to take advantage of.

                So Floyd did something wrong between May 1 to May 19 while there was no TUE yet.

                jusr for the sake of argument, what if USADA(which they will never do) rejected the TUE request it was 19 days late?

                will you agree Floyd did something wrong?

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                • Originally posted by Rath View Post
                  and that was my point the first time around you said Floyd did nothing wrong.

                  Well, he did. TUE corrected it 19 days later. a loop hole USADA and TMT was able to take advantage of.

                  So Floyd did something wrong between May 1 to May 19 while there was no TUE yet.

                  jusr for the sake of argument, what if USADA(which they will never do) rejected the TUE request it was 19 days late?

                  will you agree Floyd did something wrong?
                  I agreed on that weeks back.

                  So what ?

                  For the last time..... it is highly likely that Mayweather did not follow the exact USADA protocol..... so what ?

                  The point is, was he juicing ?

                  Your problem is not me, your problem is this..... 1) USADA has released a statement saying that Mayweather did nothing wrong..... 2) NSAC has released a statement saying that Mayweather did nothing wrong.

                  I suspect that the rules were bent for Mayweather, and if so, that is completely unacceptable. Both organisations need to be transparent/consistant..... but you cant compare that to VADA using a dirty hotel glass to collect a urine sample from Brandon Rios.

                  I believe that it is morre likely that a process breakdown, or mistake, was made...... but I dont give a fcuk..... so long as Mayweather was clean, who cares.

                  Every process is a living document, USADA will tidy up their protocol..... in much the same way that VADA no longer use dirty glasses to collect urine samples.

                  Mayweather was obviously clean..... the three " firsts " prove that this issue is an isolated exception..... Mayweather was tested before/after..... and the appropriate agency considered the possibility of inappropriate IV use, they investigated, and they cleared Mayweather.

                  /subject, in my book

                  Just look at the folks who have decided to make an issue out of this, they all belong to one particular fanbase.

                  Nothing important to see here.

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                  • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    That is simply not true..... it is a violation of their rules/protocols.

                    Purchasing a handgun without a license means that I broke the rules.

                    But it does not make me a murderer.

                    I agree that it is likely/probable that the correct protocol was not followed.

                    However, the fact that this is obviously a one-off exception.....

                    ..... proven by the fact that 1) Mayweather has never been previously reported by testers for IV use 2) Mayweather has never contacted the USADA offices requesting approval/assistance for an IV 3) Mayweather has never requested or been granted a TUE.

                    ..... the fact that this is obviously a one-off exception that was investigated by USADA and NSAC..... means that I can sleep at night.
                    Good luck sleeping in the daytime.

                    .... Mayweather was tested before/after....
                    As I stated before, he wasn't tested before and after the IV. His urine before the IV and his urine after the IV were mixed; it certainly doesn't mean he was tested before/after... .

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                    • Originally posted by Rath View Post
                      why do you need TUE to do "nothing wrong" ?
                      Why do you need half a story to say you know , youre hate driven not truth seeking , Hauser cannot prove anything he does even say anything specific its all just feeding losers like you .

                      Did you hear the story about Manny and his Toradol use since 2009 , have a read it really looks like Manny was up to no good and it explains why he refused blood testing until now .

                      Hey Rath you ever seen a blood drug test result from Manny between 2009 and now , me neither they dont exist isnt that odd .

                      http://www.nationalsarmrace.com/?p=4932

                      The latest salvo in the “Questionable Performance Enhancing Drug” storyline in today’s professional baseball landscape was this interesting statement from Jonathan Papelbon last week; he and other Boston teammates frequently were injected with the drug Toradol by team doctors when they were feeling “run-down” or overly fatigued in order to get a quick pick-me-up for a game. Apparently Toradol had the effect of giving players a four hour window of feeling “pretty damn good” and it was used by a portion of the Boston clubhouse. Its also in use in many other clubhouses (though apparently not in Philadelphia, who told Papelbon his Toradol days were over).

                      Ok, how is Toradol not a Performance Enhancing Drug? It certainly seems to qualify based on WADA’s “Three Criteria” for PEDs:
                      1.The capacity to enhance performance (clearly, as discussed by Papelbon)
                      2.Use can result in negative health consequences (absolutely; Jon Lester suffered some of them and had a serious internal bleeding issue, and now Boston is reportedly reviewing its use of the drug)
                      3.Violate the spirit of sports. (opinion based .. but after reading what Toradol can do, how can you NOT argue that its use violates the “spirit of sports?”)



                      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...her-dont-care/

                      In an intriguing feature included in tonight’s new Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel (HBO, 10o p.m. ET/PT), Andrea Kremer explores the NFL’s “magic potion” that “masks pain from head to toe.”


                      The wonder drug goes by the name of Toradol. It’s not a narcotic, it’s not addictive, it’s legal to use.
                      And plenty of players are using it.

                      Former NFL center Jeremy Newberry tells Kremer that, when he played for the 49ers, players lined up for a dose of Toradol before games. “I’ve seen lines of 20 or 30 of them standing there waiting for a shot,” Newberry.


                      http://www.startribune.com/zeroing-i...ned/166712256/

                      But the Super Bowl? With little hesitance, Holt asked for and received a Toradol shot.

                      "I felt like new money," Holt said. "You get that shot and you feel like you're 18, 19 years old. It's like a sheet of armor. I was a new man."
                      Several hours later, after making seven catches for 109 yards, including a 9-yard touchdown grab, Holt was also a Super Bowl champion with the Rams edging the Titans 23-16.

                      Everything about the day felt great. Until the Toradol faded.
                      "It was very, very, very painful once that medication wore off," Holt said. "When you get that Toradol shot, you feel like you have a whole new body on you.

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