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  • IMDAZED
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    #261
    Originally posted by GTTofAK
    TUE was applied for on May 19th and grated the next day. So far we have seen none of the documentation that WADA requires for a TUE and not even a claim for USADA that such documentation even exists. Some investigation.
    And why would you see it?

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    • Lester Tutor
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      #262
      Yes. I say A side because I want that to sync in your heads for fun! Being any side gives you the right to take an IV if both parties agree in contract negotiations or the simple fact that there are guidelines. Again, how does an athlete apply for a pre-dehydration form? Seems pretty practical and a loophole if fighters were to need a preform for upcoming dehydration.

      Again, just for fun, Floyd was the A side!

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      • GTTofAK
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        #263
        Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
        This is the problem. The assumption that oral rehydration is the only method.
        The question is not if oral rehydration is the only method the question is if IV rehydration was the only method. WADA rules forbid IV rehydration unless it there are no other options

        1. A clearly defined diagnosis.
        2. Supportive evidence that no permitted alternative treatment can be used.
        3. The treatment has been ordered by a physician and administered by
        qualified medical personnel in an appropriate medical setting.
        4. Adequate medical records of the treatmen


        There is a reason why USADA has made no attempt what so ever to explain their granting of the TUE and how it complies with WADA rules. It didn't and its plainly obvious that it didn't.
        Last edited by GTTofAK; 09-30-2015, 10:47 AM.

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        • GTTofAK
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          #264
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          And why would you see it?
          Because if you have evidence you would present it. If USADA had the actually physical documentation to back up their claims they would have presented it.

          If they had followed WADA rules on the granting of a TUE there would be copious documentation.

          TUE Physician Guidelines
          Medical Information to Support the Decisions of TUECs
          INTRAVENOUS INFUSIONS
          © WADA - World Anti-Doping Program
          Version 4.0
          February 2015

          2. Diagnosis
          A. Medical history

          A summary of the athlete’s history and the findings of a physical
          examination should confirm the diagnosis and establish the need for an IV infusion. A precise description of the clinical situation and specific medical indication for the IV infusion must be given in the TUE application. Note that if an IV infusion or injection is part of a clinical investigation, surgical procedure or hospital admission, there is no requirement for a TUE. The athlete is nevertheless advised to obtain and keep a copy of the medical records from the intervention or procedure.

          B. Diagnostic criteria A clearly defined diagnosis should be established in accordance with the International Classification of Diseases standards of the World Health Organization ICD-10).

          C. Relevant medical information A detailed description of the substance to be infused, the rate of infusion and any other relevant clinical information from the treating physician should be included. It must be demonstrated why an alternative permitted therapy, for example oral rehydration in case of dehydration, is not a valid option. Any existing co-morbidities that would influence the decision for granting a TUE should also be included.
          From USAD's response its quite clear that none of this documentation actually exists.
          Last edited by GTTofAK; 09-30-2015, 10:44 AM.

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          • IMDAZED
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            #265
            Originally posted by GTTofAK
            Because if you have evidence you would present it. If USADA had the actually physical documentation to back up their claims they would have presented it.
            Present it to who?

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            • GTTofAK
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              #266
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Present it to who?
              You are aware that they gave a 25 page response to Hauser and that while WADA requires copious documentation for ta TUE none of that documentation is referenced in their response.

              It simply does not exist.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #267
                Originally posted by GTTofAK
                You are aware that they gave a 25 page response to Hauser and that while WADA requires copious documentation for ta TUE none of that documentation is referenced in their response.

                It simply does not exist.
                Ok a third time: Who do they NEED to present to?

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                • GTTofAK
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                  #268
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Ok a third time: Who do they NEED to present to?
                  Yes why does one NEED to present evidence? So much simpler to make hyperbolic statements with 0 support.

                  If such evidence existed it would have been included in their response to Huaser. It wasn't so it does not exist.

                  Who was their response presented to? That it wasn't presented to any single person or entity does that mean it does not exist in your warped ****** little mind you pathetic dumb piece of ****?
                  Last edited by GTTofAK; 09-30-2015, 11:04 AM.

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                  • Rath
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                    #269
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Ok a third time: Who do they NEED to present to?
                    to dazed floyd fan like you.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #270
                      Originally posted by GTTofAK
                      Yes why does one NEED to present evidence? So much simpler to make hyperbolic statements with 0 support.

                      If such evidence existed it would have been included in their response to Huaser. It wasn't so it does not exist.
                      Sure. Kinda like how they never provided Team Pacquiao with Mayweather's medical documents according to Hauser. Remember that?

                      Maybe, just maybe, they don't dole out info because some clown with a keyboard is running on rumors. That's where NEED comes in. But please, carry on with your little theories.

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