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  • Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
    and drinking is the quickest and easiest way to rehydrate...
    That's misleading. I feel like USADA now! Drinking, or rather replenishing fluid into the body for the context of weight requirement or expectation is misleading. People seem to have forgotten the golden rule of dehydration, and that is my friends, the general feeling of exhaustion. You can feel deadbeat for hours even after taking lets say 500ml of just Oral intake. The miracles of IV is the way the fluid is distributed into the BLOODstream. People have this crazy idea that going through the stomach and filtration and distribution of minerals is the same thing as an IV. Floyd is the A side. He can choose whichever way he FEELS best to go with. Why would he leave himself into controversy?

    Anyhow, from first hand experience and the real world IVs are awesome! You can sit there feeling like **** and after the IV you feel totally different. Athletes can be dehydrated at anytime. What has not been concisely explained is what would an athlete do near an event. If it's not a high expectation and the athlete has gone through whatever level of dehydration he can just go the Oral route and call it a day, over exerted practice. However for a main event it would be more ideal to go IV for psychological benefit. It just feels better.
    Last edited by Lester Tutor; 09-29-2015, 08:46 PM.

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    • Originally posted by justicia liga View Post
      The timeline itself.....
      What timeline ?

      Originally posted by justicia liga View Post
      ..... and that mayweather isn't at anytime vomiting during that time assures that oral hydration was possible.
      How do you know that Mayweather did not vomit or exhibit any of the other obvious signs of dehydration?

      Originally posted by justicia liga View Post
      If an IV was necessary; why did it take more than hour for it to be infused?
      Not sure.

      How do you know that it took longer than an hour ?

      Is that abnormal? How long does it usually take?

      Originally posted by justicia liga View Post
      Again from the USADA response. Given that, how much of an investigation do you think they did?
      Not sure what you mean ?

      USADA are the gold standard, and they are the testing agency that was contracted for that fight, so I can only assume that the investigation was adequate/comprehensive.

      Why would you assume that the USADA investigation was inadequate ?

      Originally posted by justicia liga View Post
      And actually by NSAC regulations; IV's not authorized by them are illegal. And they were not informed so they did not authorize it. They are just not interested in pursuing it.
      Initially, I heard the exact same thing. And yet..... NSAC also investigated, and they also cleared Mayweather of any wrongdoing.

      I think that there are a lot of assumptions being made here.

      The only assumption that is reasonable to make is that the agency who was contracted to do the testing, the supposed gold standard, did the job that was required of them.

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      • Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
        That's misleading. I feel like USADA now! Drinking, or rather replenishing fluid into the body for the context of weight requirement or expectation is misleading. People seem to have forgotten the golden rule of dehydration, and that is my friends, the general feeling of exhaustion. You can feel deadbeat for hours even after taking lets say 500ml of just Oral intake. The miracles of IV is the way the fluid is distributed into the BLOODstream. People have this crazy idea that going through the stomach and filtration and distribution of minerals is the same thing as an IV. Floyd is the A side. He can choose whichever way he FEELS best to go with. Why would he leave himself into controversy?

        Anyhow, from first hand experience and the real world IVs are awesome! You can sit there feeling like **** and after the IV you feel totally different. Athletes can be dehydrated at anytime. What has not been concisely explained is what would an athlete do near an event. If it's not a high expectation and the athlete has gone through whatever level of dehydration he can just go the Oral route and call it a day, over exerted practice. However for a main event it would be more ideal to go IV for psychological benefit. It just feels better.
        wow! what a stretch?!

        floyd is the A side.....ha ha ha...ha....ha ha ha ha again...

        so A side fighters are not subject to the rules? oh my...

        oh my, again...

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        • Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
          wow! what a stretch?!

          floyd is the A side.....ha ha ha...ha....ha ha ha ha again...

          so A side fighters are not subject to the rules? oh my...

          oh my, again...
          Floyd is the A side. Sure it's against WADA regulations but Floyd is the A side. Of course he wasn't actually dehydrated, but he was thirsty, and if Floyd wants an IV instead of oral intake, Floyd gets it, because Floyd's the A side.

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          • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            What timeline ?



            How do you know that Mayweather did not vomit or exhibit any of the other obvious signs of dehydration?



            Not sure.

            How do you know that it took longer than an hour ?

            Is that abnormal? How long does it usually take?



            Not sure what you mean ?

            USADA are the gold standard, and they are the testing agency that was contracted for that fight, so I can only assume that the investigation was adequate/comprehensive.

            Why would you assume that the USADA investigation was inadequate ?



            Initially, I heard the exact same thing. And yet..... NSAC also investigated, and they also cleared Mayweather of any wrongdoing.

            I think that there are a lot of assumptions being made here.

            The only assumption that is reasonable to make is that the agency who was contracted to do the testing, the supposed gold standard, did the job that was required of them.
            :Initially, I heard the exact same thing. And yet..... NSAC also investigated, and they also cleared Mayweather of any wrongdoing."

            nsac first pointed out that as per their regulation what happened was illegal!

            then...

            nsac cleared mayweather!

            hep hep hurray!

            this flip flop is the flip flop of the century!

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            • Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
              Floyd is the A side. Sure it's against WADA regulations but Floyd is the A side. Of course he wasn't actually dehydrated, but he was thirsty, and if Floyd wants an IV instead of oral intake, Floyd gets it, because Floyd's the A side.
              oh my oh my...my question is;

              so A side fighters are not subject to the rules?

              a simple yes or no, kiddo!

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              • Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                The problem is people referencing general medical literature of the normal walk in patient vs. WADA's own disclaimer in their code about fighters aiming to a particular weight. Low and behold, the verbage of TUE or Retroactive are found....
                Then go write about the WADA code with regards to hydration.

                His weight at weigh-in was a pound below the limit.

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                • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  What timeline ?



                  How do you know that Mayweather did not vomit or exhibit any of the other obvious signs of dehydration?



                  Not sure.

                  How do you know that it took longer than an hour ?

                  Is that abnormal? How long does it usually take?



                  Not sure what you mean ?

                  USADA are the gold standard, and they are the testing agency that was contracted for that fight, so I can only assume that the investigation was adequate/comprehensive.

                  Why would you assume that the USADA investigation was inadequate ?



                  Initially, I heard the exact same thing. And yet..... NSAC also investigated, and they also cleared Mayweather of any wrongdoing.

                  I think that there are a lot of assumptions being made here.

                  The only assumption that is reasonable to make is that the agency who was contracted to do the testing, the supposed gold standard, did the job that was required of them.
                  He was informed at around 1:45pm. Actually earlier since the guards wouldn't just let in any person in a gated subdivision without informing the resident involved. The weigh-in was at around 3pm and the IV infusion was done after all the ceremonies of the weigh-in.

                  I didn't see him vomiting and he didn't give that out as a reason why he needed an IV. He said that his urine was dark or darker. He never mentioned vomiting.

                  And his IV was administered after the ceremonies of the weigh-in so that's several hours already after being notified of being needed to give a urine sample.

                  WADA is the gold standard. USADA already said it was not against NSAC rules when it happens to be so, so what kind of investigation do you expect?

                  And NSAC didn't say that they conducted an investigation. They just said that thay had no problem with what mayweather did even if it was against the rules if you read NSAC regulations.

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                  • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    Mayweather has been investigated.
                    TUE was applied for on May 19th and grated the next day. So far we have seen none of the documentation that WADA requires for a TUE and not even a claim for USADA that such documentation even exists. Some investigation.

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                    • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      You can put it anywhere.
                      Okay you are ******. Do you understand what IV means. There is a reason no one has ever even heard of getting an IV in your ass until you invented it.

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