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  • #51
    Originally posted by Mukuro View Post
    Well we now have ironclad proof that Floyd has been cheating for the last 9 years since his retirement, so all those wins go out the window. Floyd's best win not on the juice is his 2 on 1 job against Hatton with Cortez holding Hatton's hands behind his back.

    TBE?
    Myth busted

    We have ironclad proof that Floyd has been on the juice for 9 years?

    First thing: Ironclad proof? Where? If it was genuine proof, he'd have been caught out 9 years ago. The proof you speak of is as much as there is against Pac too.

    Show us all this 'ironclad proof'.
    Last edited by BennyST; 09-28-2015, 07:15 AM.

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    • #52
      He already is.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Killer_of_Sheep View Post
        He already is.
        To idiots who dksab.....

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        • #54
          No. Who have any of those listed guys beat? Garcia and Khan probably have the best wins of the bunch with Matthyse and Maidana respectively, but they haven't been around long enough to exactly push his ATG ranking through the roof.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Xi_ View Post
            To idiots who dksab.....
            Like the fact that Duran has a better legacy than Thomas Hearns.

            Pacquiao's career at lower weights trumps Floyd's and their legacies at welterweight is pretty much the same (cept Floyd's victory).

            Manny has done more overrall in his career and nothing can change it.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Killer_of_Sheep View Post
              Like the fact that Duran has a better legacy than Thomas Hearns.

              Pacquiao's career at lower weights trumps Floyd's and their legacies at welterweight is pretty much the same (cept Floyd's victory).

              Manny has done more overrall in his career and nothing can change it.
              My goodness.... how many times did Manny Pacquiao defend a Lineal status at one weight?

              good luck!

              Pacquiao: the Flyweight wonder manipulated by Top Rank with catch weights and clauses just so that Arum could prove to Don King that he could topple Lewis vs Holyfield II at the MGM. It may not seem like it, but Don King has a way better resume than Arum...

              ''Flyweight'' wonder scandal-ism.

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              • #57
                Post 2000-2009
                Mayweathers Wins
                Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Alvarez, Maidana I, Maidana II, Pacquiao, Berto.

                Pacquiao Wins
                Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, Marquez, Rios, Bradley II, Algieri

                Pacquiao Losses
                Mayweather, Marquez, Bradley I*

                Robbery Fights and Close Fights are different. May-Maidana I and Pac-Marquez III were close fights while Pac-Bradley was Robbery Fight. Luckily for Mayweather he doesn't have a robbery lose like Pacquiao.

                You see, Mayweather slightly edges Pacquiao in the last 6 years.



                When Pacquiao won BWAA, WBC, WBO fighter of the decade (2000-2009). Pacquiao dominated that decade that these organizations gave it all to Pacquiao. One lose to Mayweather won't diminish what Pacquiao did accomplished in his boxing career.

                Pacquiao also beat Barrera and Marquez at their Primes at their best weight without cheating, catchweight etc. Floyd doesn't have that kind of win in almost 20 yrs of his boxing career.

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                • #58
                  There is nothing Pacquiao could do to be considered on par with Mayweather. Even if he fought 10 more years and beat GGG, Ward, and several other champions he could not catch Floyd. Why? Because Floyd thoroughly beat him and if Pacquiao goes onto great things it will make the Floyd domination of him look even more impressive.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                    My goodness.... how many times did Manny Pacquiao defend a Lineal status at one weight?

                    good luck!

                    Pacquiao: the Flyweight wonder manipulated by Top Rank with catch weights and clauses just so that Arum could prove to Don King that he could topple Lewis vs Holyfield II at the MGM. It may not seem like it, but Don King has a way better resume than Arum...

                    ''Flyweight'' wonder scandal-ism.
                    Who cares about Lineal status? Is whom you beat and that's it. I remember when Floyd said he couldn't care less about belts when he fought Shane Mosley and people were delighted. But that for some other time.


                    Barrera x2, Morales 2x, Marquez are his overall top wins, wich are certainly better than Corrales and Castillo.

                    But then, there's a ****load of fighters who were pretty good: Ledbwaba, Eliecer Julio, Oscar Larios, Sasakul. Wich in my view are better than Hernandez, Angel Manfredy and Carlos Hernandez.

                    Again - Their Career at Welterweight is pretty much the same so i don't care. Legacy wise, they're pretty equal (Floyd's victory over Pacquiao crows his own career).

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Killer_of_Sheep View Post
                      Like the fact that Duran has a better legacy than Thomas Hearns.

                      Pacquiao's career at lower weights trumps Floyd's and their legacies at welterweight is pretty much the same (cept Floyd's victory).

                      Manny has done more overrall in his career and nothing can change it.
                      Exactly what I'm thinking.

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