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Can Pacquiao finish his career and be considered equal to or better than Floyd

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  • #91
    In a lot of peoples' eyes, manny already beat floyd.

    If you are truly unbiased, you would realize all floyd did was run all night and he couldnt land anything significant on manny whereas manny had floyd hurt several times.

    and then even if you did have floyd winning, you have to consider

    a) manny was fighting one-handed and wasnt allowed to get his pain-killing shots

    b) its very likely floyd was using peds for this fight

    at the moment, i already have manny above floyd and thats unlikely to change, especially with floyds entire career now being heavily suspect of ped abuse

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Toyman View Post
      In a lot of peoples' eyes, manny already beat floyd.

      If you are truly unbiased, you would realize all floyd did was run all night and he couldnt land anything significant on manny whereas manny had floyd hurt several times.

      and then even if you did have floyd winning, you have to consider

      a) manny was fighting one-handed and wasnt allowed to get his pain-killing shots

      b) its very likely floyd was using peds for this fight

      at the moment, i already have manny above floyd and thats unlikely to change, especially with floyds entire career now being heavily suspect of ped abuse
      Looooooooooooooool. That was funny.

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      • #93
        Possible but not likely. He could shoot for the Alvarez-Cotto winner as a start.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
          If he would've been capable of beating Floyd, that would piss all over the Barerra win.
          Yup. But the one sided nature of Floyd's boxing lesson drops him down a few notches. He will always be Robin to Floyd's Batman.

          Nothing wrong with that. Robin was a solid sidekick.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by PBP. View Post
            Yup. But the one sided nature of Floyd's boxing lesson drops him down a few notches. He will always be Robin to Floyd's Batman.

            Nothing wrong with that. Robin was a solid sidekick.
            Robin is the most weakass sidekick ever though tbh. Special abilities: ride motorcycle.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
              Robin is the most weakass sidekick ever though tbh. Special abilities: ride motorcycle.
              Robin was nice with his hands. His outfit was a little too Village People-ish though.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Toyman View Post
                In a lot of peoples' eyes, manny already beat floyd.

                If you are truly unbiased, you would realize all floyd did was run all night and he couldnt land anything significant on manny whereas manny had floyd hurt several times.

                and then even if you did have floyd winning, you have to consider

                a) manny was fighting one-handed and wasnt allowed to get his pain-killing shots

                b) its very likely floyd was using peds for this fight

                at the moment, i already have manny above floyd and thats unlikely to change, especially with floyds entire career now being heavily suspect of ped abuse
                That is funny. And let's remember, Brian Kenny asked Floyd, ''why won't you do WADA style testing, even though it's what you've demanded, and that you have no idea about NSAC's rules because you've never fought in Vegas?''

                But here's the original reality and transcript you can't erase in sports propaganda.

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                • #98
                  All great posts and It has remained pretty civil which Is In and of Itself a shock. For the record, I am In no way shape or form a Floyd fan but there Is no doubt that he won on May 2nd. I watched the fight 4 times and scored It 8-4 each time. I really have no Idea how anyone could have had Pac winning a decision.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by PBP. View Post
                    Yup. But the one sided nature of Floyd's boxing lesson drops him down a few notches. He will always be Robin to Floyd's Batman.

                    Nothing wrong with that. Robin was a solid sidekick.
                    lol. Batgirl did some things too.

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                    • Originally posted by ironmt View Post
                      If he can pull of wins against some of the younger guys such as Brook, Garcia, Thurman, Crawford or Khan? Floyd has no one on his resume that can compete with Morales and Barrera IMO and all of there common opponents besides Marquez were beaten In more spectacular fashion by Pacquiao. On the flip side, Floyd did get the win over Manny and rightfully so. On that note and as of right now, Floyd should be ranked higher. But what If Pacquiao Is able to make a run and dispose of some of these highly ranked young guns particularly against some of the names mentioned above. At the end of the day do these two finish as equals? If not who deserves to be ranked higher based on what they accomplished In the ring and In there careers.

                      This thread Is not Intended as a bash thread targeted at either fighter. We have enough of that on a daily basis. I am just curious as to what others opinions are on where these to fighters stand when comparing there resumes and career accomplishments.
                      Sugar Ray Robinson!

                      But for me, I like Both Floyd and PAC.
                      But I realize that many good fighters don't get a lot of play in the US.

                      I think Floyd is by far the tetter boxer.
                      I bet against PAC when they fought.

                      I think Marquez is better than PAC, but comes from a long line, a long history of great Mexican boxers. I think Ricardo lopez is better than PAC.
                      But PAC has that great story, and America loves the underdog! Maybe the whole world does. But honestly, Floyd is the better boxer. Has better pre fight negotiation skills, and gets it done! I strongly believe Castilo beat him in the first fight!

                      I am guessing that if he didn't have bad hands. He would have had many more knock outs! If I factor that in, it adds points to floyd! PAC beat a lot of the guys Floyd beat first, damaged goods. PAC did it in a more dramatic style, but Hatton was already on Coke after Floyd stopped him! De la Hoya was not quick enough to do much, and if memory serves me, no catch weight to handicap DLH.

                      I would love to see manny face those young lions, but I don't want to see him get hurt! Age, wear and tear, etc!

                      But PAC wins the charisma fight.
                      Floyd wins in the ring.

                      HBO used all of its power to create a super star, manny added to that by knocking guys out. HBO will use all of it's marketing strategy to push the next great thing. Showtime also will do this, manufacture consent and popularity. See Edward Bernays, he was a master!

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