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  • Savage Poster
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    #101
    Estrada's last 7 opponents have a combined 17 losses. Gonzalez's last 7 opponents have a combined 62 losses. Gonzalez is P4P #1 doe, .

    Goddamn boxing hipsters, .

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    • -Hyperion-
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      #102
      Originally posted by crold1
      But he wasn't sitting down and staying there like he did to just crush him to the floor four times. Looked like maybe he wanted the highlight reel up top. He got it. When he decided to just take over in four, it was easy for him. Marquez was missing and getting tore up.
      Well precisely why I said it's dumb......he had everything on a platter to overwhelm Marquez with offense but he decided to let Tyson deliver hismelf to him and lost momentum....he was actually loading up on those uppercuts, but Tyson was prepared to eat them going forward, it was just a waste of time.....this is how Peterson fights a lot of times...everything on a platter to win with offense but makes weird choices in crucial times...
      His corner were also telling him to take 0 chances...but taking 0 chances against an uncoordinated guy with no defense who you just floored 4 times? It's a bit frustrating to watch...

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      • crold1
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        #103
        Originally posted by -Hyperion-
        Well precisely why I said it's dumb......he had everything on a platter to overwhelm Marquez with offense but he decided to let Tyson deliver hismelf to him and lost momentum....he was actually loading up on those uppercuts, but Tyson was prepared to eat them going forward, it was just a waste of time.....this is how Peterson fights a lot of times...everything on a platter to win with offense but makes weird choices in crucial times...
        His corner were also telling him to take 0 chances...but taking 0 chances against an uncoordinated guy with no defense who you just floored 4 times? It's a bit frustrating to watch...
        He could have basically done tonight what Roman did to Sosa. That's, to me, a difference between the two. Roman would have been cooling his heels about six rounds earlier. Doesn't mean he'd win a rematch. But it's a difference between the two.

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        • Savage Poster
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          #104
          Estrada should fight Valentin Leon next. We'll see if that gets Estrada a Top 5 P4P spot like it did for Gonzalez, .

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          • crold1
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            #105
            Originally posted by Malgus
            Estrada's last 7 opponents have a combined 17 losses. Gonzalez's last 7 opponents have a combined 62 losses. Gonzalez is P4P #1 doe, .

            Goddamn boxing hipsters, .
            About half those losses come from one non-title fight he did basically for free for the locals. Misleading.

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              #106
              Originally posted by crold1
              He could have basically done tonight what Roman did to Sosa. That's, to me, a difference between the two. Roman would have been cooling his heels about six rounds earlier. Doesn't mean he'd win a rematch. But it's a difference between the two.
              Yeah, honeslty, If Estrada doesn't up his killer instinct, I could see him landing most of the clean hard shots against Gonzalez and losing a decision because of the quiet rounds....

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              • crold1
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                #107
                Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                Yeah, honeslty, If Estrada doesn't up his killer instinct, I could see him landing most of the clean hard shots against Gonzalez and losing a decision because of the quiet rounds....
                I don't know that he'd outland him much either. This is the third time he's let an outclassed guy hang around in his last four. Maybe he gets bored? Happens.

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                • Savage Poster
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                  Yeah, honeslty, If Estrada doesn't up his killer instinct, I could see him landing most of the clean hard shots against Gonzalez and losing a decision because of the quiet rounds....
                  He'll never get a decision against Gonzalez. Just like Marquez against Pacquiao. That's why I was irked that Estrada didn't take out Marquez after the first two knockdowns. He'll need a K.O. to beat Gonzalez.

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                    #109
                    I see Gonzalez getting past Viloria by late TKO, setting up a rematch with Estrada hopefully early in '16.

                    My e-points will be on Chocolatito.

                    Will be a tremendous fight.

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                      #110
                      Ring Magazine should replace Yamanaka with Estrada in the P4P rankings. Estrada is clearly a great fighter and is going to be very tough to beat even for someone like Gonzalez.

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