ESPN's Dan Rafael P4P List

[lebrick]

ward
2013 - edwin rodriguez
2014 - nobody
2015 - paul smith
upcoming opponent - nobody

roman
2013 - ronald barrera, francisco rodriguez, oscar blanquet
2014 - juan kantun, juan purisima, akira yaegashi (WBC 112 title), rocky fuentes
2015 - valentin leon, edgar sosa
upcoming opponent - brian viloria


not exactly the same is it, dumbass?

one is fighting people and the other is fighting hobbits..

[Left Hook Tua]

I think most people here favor big name wins over sheer dominance and performances.

I wonder how many people would rank Kovalev ahead of Gonzalez.

i do too.

but the roman crybaby whining is over the top.

kid has titles in 3 divisions, undefeated a 43-0, most by ko's.

of course he's gonna get votes.

plus i have a feeling ggg/kov split votes for those not voting roman.

i understand it's kinda flukey how roman got #1 p4p.

but trying to compare ward inactivity to roman is stupid.

roman fighting 3-4 times a year. ward twice in 3 yrs.

yaegashi was wbc 112 champ.
fuentes was top 10 112.
sosa is top 5 112.
rodriguez is top 10 108.

and in a couple weeks he's gonna fight another top 112 guy in viloria.


i understand why ppl don't have him #1, but don't say some ignorant crap.

[Left Hook Tua]

one is fighting people and the other is fighting hobbits..

shut up, pygmy.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

ward
2013 - edwin rodriguez
2014 - nobody
2015 - paul smith
upcoming opponent - nobody

roman
2013 - ronald barrera, francisco rodriguez, oscar blanquet
2014 - juan kantun, juan purisima, akira yaegashi (WBC 112 title), rocky fuentes
2015 - valentin leon, edgar sosa
upcoming opponent - brian viloria


not exactly the same is it, dumbass?

One has been inactive fighting nobodies, the other has been active fighting nobodies.. But in the end they have both been fighting nobodies.. Viloria is the step in the right direction
Yaegashi is maybe at the level of a ghost or Berto. Rodriguez is a one hit wonder much like a Rico Ramos. Leon had like 28 losses, the others are old faded names or journeyman.. Nothing elite about either's level of competition in recent years.

[Left Hook Tua]

One has been inactive fighting nobodies, the other has been active fighting nobodies.. But in the end they have both been fighting nobodies.. Viloria is the step in the right direction
Yaegashi is maybe at the level of a ghost or Berto. Rodriguez is a one hit wonder much like a Rico Ramos. Leon had like 28 losses, the others are old faded names or journeyman.. Nothing elite about either's level of competition in recent years.

9-0 > 2-0 in 3 yrs fighting nobodies

and his nobodies are better too.

[BrometheusBob.]

Here's my opinion: If Ward isn't on your P4P list, that's fine. He's fought twice in 3 years. I get it. But if he's on your list, he better be #1. Otherwise, your list is ****. Does anyone disagree?

I'm sure that close to everyone on this forum would disagree with this statement.

[Raonic]

Andre Ward #21 is pathetic. He clearly has the talent but hasn't earned it at all.

[hardvibes]

Ok Ward isn't supposed to be there, but this is certainly a better list than some bs I've seen recently.