ESPN's Dan Rafael P4P List

[Left Hook Tua]

Just cause he gets scoops doesn't make him an expert. Karceno talks to arum sometimes. Doesn't make him any more of an expert of boxing knowledge

how many fight he's been to?

covered?

how many managers, trainers, boxers, promoters, etc. has he talked to? met?

for 20 yrs. now?

you can disagree with him, you can think his opinions are stupid......

but if you think he doesn't know more than us, that's being ignorant.

a lot of the guys on here don't even have HBO/SHOWTIME let alone buy PPV.

[Real King Kong]

oh my god someone has an opinion lets insult them!

...not only that, he's fat

[M Bison]

Lmfao at anyone who has Ward in their top ten.

[M Bison]

The fuk.


I'm glad he doesn't put Guillermo Rigondeaux top 5 because the dude hasn't fought in 9 months.

Roman G. can be #2

Klitschko is #1


Kovalev should be higher than Ward and Golovkin, Ward even being on the list right now is still not entirely solidified. Let him get a few more fights in first.

Pacquiao can be anywhere on that list, from #1-#5 IMO. There is no shame to losing to Floyd, although I suppose people are eating him up about the Marquez KO still, despite the fact that he beat Bradley twice, Rios/Algieri are mediocre wins at best though. I guess if he beats Khan (or some other good Welterweight) he'll shoot right back up... then again, maybe he should consider moving back down to 140.

Rigo has fought better opposition recently than Ward that's a fact and that isn't really a big compliment to Rigo because he has fought nobodies but still better than the likes of Smith but sure Andre Ward P4P 2 doe

[Left Hook Tua]

Lmfao at anyone who has Ward in their top ten.

ward hasn't done anything in years.

[Left Hook Tua]

Rigo has fought better opposition recently than Ward that's a fact and that isn't really a big compliment to Rigo because he has fought nobodies but still better than the likes of Smith but sure Andre Ward P4P 2 doe

yeah those nobodies dropped rigo couple times.

[M Bison]

yeah those nobodies dropped rigo couple times.

Maybe the last one isn't as bad to be called a nobody but clearly outmatched in every way, didn't really do anything to deserve a shot at a world title.

Point is I'd sooner have Rigondeaux in the top ten over the like of Ward, a lot of people make exceptions with these P4P rankings there really is no limit to it just don't agree with Dan on this one.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

ward hasn't done anything in years.

Neither has roman... The Estrada fight was in 2012, and no big fights since..

[Left Hook Tua]

Neither has roman... The Estrada fight was in 2012, and no big fights since..

ward
2013 - edwin rodriguez
2014 - nobody
2015 - paul smith
upcoming opponent - nobody

roman
2013 - ronald barrera, francisco rodriguez, oscar blanquet
2014 - juan kantun, juan purisima, akira yaegashi (WBC 112 title), rocky fuentes
2015 - valentin leon, edgar sosa
upcoming opponent - brian viloria


not exactly the same is it, dumbass?

[SlySlickSmooth]

I think most people here favor big name wins over sheer dominance and performances.

I wonder how many people would rank Kovalev ahead of Gonzalez.