The History of P4P Kings

[Raonic]

naming roman gonzlaez #1 is ****** and not right.

Not saying Gonzalez is #1 (he's not #1 on my list). I'm just saying this isn't the first time Ring Magazine has ranked a guy mainly based on talent considering Floyd was ranked #2 for fighting guys who are really worse than Gonzalez's competition.

[SterlingStained]

Not saying Gonzalez is #1 (he's not #1 on my list). I'm just saying this isn't the first time Ring Magazine has ranked a guy mainly based on talent considering Floyd was ranked #2 for fighting guys who are really worse than Gonzalez's competition.

see, the problem with that logic is there other boxers who look far more dynamic than gonzalez BUT WITH A RESUME OF A GREAT FIGHTER IN IT!!!!!

can you seriously say roman gonzalez is more of a visually talented fighter than rigondeaux?

[crold1]

see, the problem with that logic is there other boxers who look far more dynamic than gonzalez BUT WITH A RESUME OF A GREAT FIGHTER IN IT!!!!!

can you seriously say roman gonzalez is more of a visually talented fighter than rigondeaux?

I think Gonzalez is to offensive fighters what Rigo is to defensive. Visually, he's just as talented and a hell of a lot more appealing. If he had a dead Agbeko type in front of him, Roman would have made a statement and no one would have left early.

And Roman has fought guys like Ricardo Cordoba and Amagasa and managed to keep off the floor. Almost getting upset by Amagassa was visually what?

[Raonic]

see, the problem with that logic is there other boxers who look far more dynamic than gonzalez BUT WITH A RESUME OF A GREAT FIGHTER IN IT!!!!!

can you seriously say roman gonzalez is more of a visually talented fighter than rigondeaux?

I haven't said anything about Gonzalez arguing for or against #1. I just said that this isn't the first time Ring Magazine has done something like this (this being ranking Gonzalez high based on talent).

I said I don't have him #1 so there's no point in asking me that question.

[-Kev-]

Not saying Gonzalez is #1 (he's not #1 on my list). I'm just saying this isn't the first time Ring Magazine has ranked a guy mainly based on talent considering Floyd was ranked #2 for fighting guys who are really worse than Gonzalez's competition.

Genaro Hernandez was the reigning 130 Lineal champ at 130, he beat Azumah Nelson for it, the greatest African fighter in boxing history. You don't sound like you know much about 130lbs in the late 90s. If you were too young, at least do some homework.

[SterlingStained]

I think Gonzalez is to offensive fighters what Rigo is to defensive. Visually, he's just as talented and a hell of a lot more appealing. If he had a dead Agbeko type in front of him, Roman would have made a statement and no one would have left early.

And Roman has fought guys like Ricardo Cordoba and Amagasa and managed to keep off the floor. Almost getting upset by Amagassa was visually what?

roman gonzalez has fought someone LIKE ricardo cordoba and amagasa.

not the actual fighters.

and when has gonzalez faced someone who was 5'10 and had a 71' inch reach advantage??????

[Raonic]

Genaro Hernandez was the reigning 130 Lineal champ at 130, he beat Azumah Nelson for it, the greatest African fighter in boxing history. You don't sound like you know much about 130lbs in the late 90s. If you were too young, at least do some homework.

It's not like Roman was just handed lineal and alphabet championship and didn't beat the reigning 112 champ to get it...

Let's forget about that for a second though. Even if the competition wasn't worse than Gonzalez, do you actually think Floyd beating Genaro makes him #2 P4P?

[-Kev-]

I think Rigondeaux is way too overly criticized for his performance against the asian Andre The Giant. He is 5'4" and KO'ed a guy who was almost 5'11" and has never been stopped. Sure Rigo has been down several times against Cordoba, Donaire, and Amagasa, all good punchers but he schooled them all and he beat the breaks off of Amagasa but the guy was huge so of course in hindsight, it's not that weird that Rigo got KD'ed against such big force driving down his small face and frame. Plus he was not even hurt.

[Mr. Anonymous]

Im thinking they are just bringing attention $$$$ to the smaller weights.

[SilverMiles]

Popularity doesn't mean better. I say this all the time but you have people saying Gonzales hasn't beaten anyone but how would you know unless you follow those weight classes.

There's guys on here who think Porter is better than Estrada because they seem him on their TV more.

Gonzales has earned his position as #1 and wasn't just handed it and allowed to seat on it like some many others including Mayweather and Jones.