keith thurman vs pacqio who wins?

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  • Raonic
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    #21
    Originally posted by Beercules
    He had an 0 doe. Bumdue
    That Collazo fellow sure is good too!

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      #22
      Collazo walked Thurman down with literally no lateral movement. Thurman is a good boxer but I don't think he's on par with Marquez who took 4 fights to get Manny. I got Pacquiao by UD or even a stoppage.

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      • John Locke
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        #23
        Originally posted by Raonic
        Lol not really.

        You really think Thurman was impressive relative to his competition and relative to his talent?

        He didn't KO the 40 year old he was supposed to. Didn't KO the shot Guerrero who took a beating against some Japanese guy in his last fight. And was hittable against Collazo and only get the TKO because of a cut.

        His performance his last 3 fights clearly isn't as good as his performance before those 3 fights. Pretty obvious to see here...

        He's still a good fighter but his last 3 performance surely doesn't represent what he's capable of doing, which was my point.
        Honestly I lose brain cells everytime I come on here. The lack of understanding people have of the sport is mind boggling.

        For starerts, Bundu is a good, crafty fighter. Just because you've never heard of him or seen him fight, it doesn't mean he's a 'bum'. The guy is an Olympian and beaten some decent C level fighters as pro, Thurman was the first opportunity he had to prove himself at an elite level.

        He's a very durable and crafty fighter, very good upper body and head movement, not easy to hit clean. You can't KO everyone, Thurman every round against maybe a lower top 15 guy. That's hardly a stick to beat him with.

        Again, he beat the living **** outta Guerrero who had never been seriously hurt in his career until that night, some guys can just take a beating.

        You've either set the standard very high for Thurman or just don't like the guy.

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          #24
          Originally posted by John Locke
          I've seen the fight a number of times, don't listen to the commentator, Thurman always uses his feet when his opponent is trying to get inside, it doesn't mean he's hurt.

          He can definitely get a bit wild and even this version of Pac may beat him, but it's hard to call. Pac has been hesitant since the Marquez KO.

          The Porter fight will answer a lot of questions about Thurman for me, really looking forward to that fight.
          That's the problem and why Thurman won't beat Manny. He's wild, which plays right into Mannys hands.




          I'll watch the Porter fight closely.

          Since Floyd is out, I guess Manny is the next top gun.




          Beating a shot to hell Ghost isn't cutting it for me.

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            #25
            Originally posted by John Locke
            Honestly I lose brain cells everytime I come on here. The lack of understanding people have of the sport is mind boggling.

            For starerts, Bundu is a good, crafty fighter. Just because you've never heard of him or seen him fight, it doesn't mean he's a 'bum'. The guy is an Olympian and beaten some decent C level fighters as pro, Thurman was the first opportunity he had to prove himself at an elite level.

            He's a very durable and crafty fighter, very good upper body and head movement, not easy to hit clean. You can't KO everyone, Thurman every round against maybe a lower top 15 guy. That's hardly a stick to beat him with.

            Again, he beat the living **** outta Guerrero who had never been seriously hurt in his career until that night, some guys can just take a beating.

            You've either set the standard very high for Thurman or just don't like the guy.
            C level fighter right? Why couldn't Thurman put him away easily.




            Thurman did not look good, period.

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            • Raonic
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              #26
              Originally posted by John Locke
              Honestly I lose brain cells everytime I come on here. The lack of understanding people have of the sport is mind boggling.

              For starerts, Bundu is a good, crafty fighter. Just because you've never heard of him or seen him fight, it doesn't mean he's a 'bum'. The guy is an Olympian and beaten some decent C level fighters as pro, Thurman was the first opportunity he had to prove himself at an elite level.

              He's a very durable and crafty fighter, very good upper body and head movement, not easy to hit clean. You can't KO everyone, Thurman every round against maybe a lower top 15 guy. That's hardly a stick to beat him with.

              Again, he beat the living **** outta Guerrero who had never been seriously hurt in his career until that night, some guys can just take a beating.

              You've either set the standard very high for Thurman or just don't like the guy.
              This is what I literally just said... I just said I had him a top 3 WW but didn't think he performed close to a top 3 WW so of course I'm going to think he underperformed.

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                #27
                Pacquiao beats everyone at 147

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                • John Locke
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Beercules
                  C level fighter right? Why couldn't Thurman put him away easily.




                  Thurman did not look good, period.
                  Just because he's a C level fighter it doesn't mean he's not tough and durable, there are plenty of C level guys in boxing who are very hard to stop. Thurman won every single round against him with ease. You don't have to knock somebody out to look good.

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                  • Kuyukut
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                    #29
                    if ever the fight happens, pac will look good fighting thurman.

                    thurman style is tailor made for pac. so, pac by brutal ko!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Raonic
                      Yea and he did it against 3 bum fighters. Just because he won doesn't mean it was impressive relative to who he was fighting.

                      I have him ranked 3rd in WW but he's nowhere near the much better performances in 2013 and it doesn't take a genius to realize a lot of the other top fighters could have done that against those 3 guys he just faced.
                      Well you stated that Keith Thurman has looked "terrible" lately, now you want to change the conversation and argue he beat bums. I called you out for saying that Keith has looked terrible when it clear he hasn't, stand by your statement, bro.

                      Originally posted by Beercules
                      Who has he beat? Shot Ghost who nearly got KTFO against his last opponent?

                      Punches chance at best.

                      Guerrero took a bad beating in the Thurman fight and is pretty much ruined, that much is obvious.
                      Last edited by _original_; 09-24-2015, 07:25 PM.

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