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  • #51
    Originally posted by Gunstar1
    Yea I know why you had PBF winning the first fight, because you just proved with your biased scoring on this fight.

    Even rounds is not a cop-out, I score many rounds even, only biased people doesn't score even rounds.

    The last 2 scraps that Floyd picked was Tszyu best wins in his career.

    Next?
    LOL Preach on with your Freudian Slips. Hehehe..

    And what's with the "Next?" As though you actually said something. The correct score of the Judah fight is 8-4 Floyd, with Floyd losing an additional point for the clear knockdown. That is Floyd winning by three points. And you call that biased scoring but the fact that you had Floyd beating Castillo by 5 points in their first fight unbiased? ROFLMAO. "Next?"

    I have news for you, even rounds are extremely rare. Unless you are Larry Merchant (the king of even rounds) then you can actually see that one fighter did enough, even by the smallest margain, to win the round. Yes, when you are a confused fan fumbling in a weak attempt to score fights then you see "many rouns even." But that's not what they actually are.

    You see what's really funny is that you are so embedded in your Floyd nuthugging that you don't even realize you just criticized him. LOL If those are the best wins of Kostya's career that you scoff at (a brutal KO of a reigning, undefeated prime Judah- and a two brutal KOs of a prime Mitchell- all 3 of which fights he was supposed to lose), then how does Mayweather stay at P4P #1 when all he has done in the past year is beat those same two fighters, an far more worn-out and beat-up versions of both, LESS IMPRESSIVELY?

    The irony is delicious isn't it? Haha. Oh, it's too ez...

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    • #52
      Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
      LOL Preach on with your Freudian Slips. Hehehe..

      And what's with the "Next?" As though you actually said something. The correct score of the Judah fight is 8-4 Floyd, with Floyd losing an additional point for the clear knockdown. That is Floyd winning by three points. And you call that biased scoring but the fact that you had Floyd beating Castillo by 5 points in their first fight unbiased? ROFLMAO. "Next?"

      I have news for you, even rounds are extremely rare. Unless you are Larry Merchant (the king of even rounds) then you can actually see that one fighter did enough, even by the smallest margain, to win the round. Yes, when you are a confused fan fumbling in a weak attempt to score fights then you see "many rouns even." But that's not what they actually are.

      You see what's really funny is that you are so embedded in your Floyd nuthugging that you don't even realize you just criticized him. LOL If those are the best wins of Kostya's career that you scoff at (a brutal KO of a reigning, undefeated prime Judah- and a two brutal KOs of a prime Mitchell- all 3 of which fights he was supposed to lose), then how does Mayweather stay at P4P #1 when all he has done in the past year is beat those same two fighters, an far more worn-out and beat-up versions of both, LESS IMPRESSIVELY?

      The irony is delicious isn't it? Haha. Oh, it's too ez...


      1st, Floyd is pound for pound #1 right now, and suggesting otherwise makes you an idiot (what else is new)

      2nd, although that should have been a KD in the fight last night, the fact the ref missed it excludes it from being scored as such.

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      • #53
        This fight should not happen...

        why?

        because you same people picking Kostya would fail to give Floyd credit for winning and say he just pulled an old man out of semi-retirement...

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Bozo_no no
          1st, Floyd is pound for pound #1 right now, and suggesting otherwise makes you an idiot (what else is new)

          2nd, although that should have been a KD in the fight last night, the fact the ref missed it excludes it from being scored as such.
          Oh, my old whipping boy checking in for a smackdown? Hehe. Too ez.

          1st- You completely missed the point of that post, which is not surprising. Gunstar was attempting to discredit Kostya's resume when saying Mitchell and Judah are his two best wins, as though they are unimpressive, yet still have Mayweather at #1. P4P is so subjective that I really don't really even like discussing it- it's become a meaningless title when you can hold it without facing the best fighters in your weight class. Mayweather P4P #1? Sure, whatever. When is the last time he has fought the best fighter in his division? Just go ahead and give the fighter and the year. Then we can continue the discussion.

          2nd- You are as clueless about judging as Gunstar is. **DING-DING School's in Session, sit up straight and listen close** You do not need the ref to rule a KD to score a 10-8 round. Judges score on the "Ten Point Must System" which means all they MUST do is give the winner of the round 10 points (unless the referee officially deducts a point from them that round). If a judge sees a clear KD, which that of course was, and feels the round should be scored 10-8 then he ABSOLUTELY has that right. You'd have to be almost blind NOT to see that was a KD if you were sitting ringside. I know you are a biased propaganda fiend but I thought you at least knew basic boxing. Go sit in the corner!

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          • #55
            Originally posted by TyrantT316
            This fight should not happen...

            why?

            because you same people picking Kostya would fail to give Floyd credit for winning and say he just pulled an old man out of semi-retirement...
            I agree with that basically. Instead of picking scraps from Baldomir's table he'd be moving over the Hatton's table.

            The fight does nothing for Floyd and he shouldn't take it. If he wins, then he's just beating the same guy that Hatton just KO'd.

            What Floyd needs is to fight the best fighters available to him in his division. It's not really a difficult concept. Instead of signing to fight those coming off of major losses, then you fight the guys who beat them. Instead of Judah, you fight Baldomir, or even Margarito. Instead of Mitchell, you fight Hatton, or Cotto. It's agonizingly simple. And don't give me all that "Floyd made an offer and they priced themselves out." LOL Says who? Floyd? Hehe.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
              Oh, my old whipping boy checking in for a smackdown? Hehe. Too ez.

              1st- You completely missed the point of that post, which is not surprising. Gunstar was attempting to discredit Kostya's resume when saying Mitchell and Judah are his two best wins, as though they are unimpressive, yet still have Mayweather at #1. P4P is so subjective that I really don't really even like discussing it- it's become a meaningless title when you can hold it without facing the best fighters in your weight class. Mayweather P4P #1? Sure, whatever. When is the last time he has fought the best fighter in his division? Just go ahead and give the fighter and the year. Then we can continue the discussion.

              2nd- You are as clueless about judging as Gunstar is. **DING-DING School's in Session, sit up straight and listen close** You do not need the ref to rule a KD to score a 10-8 round. Judges score on the "Ten Point Must System" which means all they MUST do is give the winner of the round 10 points (unless the referee officially deducts a point from them that round). If a judge sees a clear KD, which that of course was, and feels the round should be scored 10-8 then he ABSOLUTELY has that right. You'd have to be almost blind NOT to see that was a KD if you were sitting ringside. I know you are a biased propaganda fiend but I thought you at least knew basic boxing. Go sit in the corner!

              Check it out, your ignorance gets pointed out, and you write an essay. Could you be any more predictable?

              You were questioning Mayweather's #1 spot, and continue to do so. That makes you an idiot.

              You don't score a knock down without the ref crediting it. That was not a 10-8 round anyway you look at it. Yes someone could score it 10-8 if Judah dominated the round, but he didn't.

              It was a flash KD, it was missed by the ref, and you wouldn't find any credible judge anywhere that would have scored that round 10-8 without the official call from the ref.

              Now that you've been put back in your place, you can keep quite.

              Or write another essay trying to justify your non sense, whatever helps you sleep better.

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              • #57
                LOL It's easy write nothing when you say nothing, like you continue to do. You still couldn't grasp my point and predictably did not answer my question "When was the last time Mayweather fought the best fighter in his division?" Hehe. We both know why you avoided it.

                As for scoring it a 10-8 round, you said that a judge cannot score it a 10-8 round unless the ref officially rules it a KD. That's simply 100% incorrect. If a judge feels it is a 10-8 round for any reason, whether one fighter has dominated it or CLEARLY knocked the other down, then he/she can score it 10-8. That's the 10 point must system. Floyd was clearly knocked down. 10-8 round is the correct score for a judge that is paying attention. Just like you don't HAVE to score it 10-8 even if there is a knockdown. But Judah not only clearly won the round but he also clearly knocked Floyd down. 10-8 round. Floyd won the fight 115-112. By 3 points.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
                  LOL It's easy write nothing when you say nothing, like you continue to do. You still couldn't grasp my point and predictably did not answer my question "When was the last time Mayweather fought the best fighter in his division?" Hehe. We both know why you avoided it.

                  As for scoring it a 10-8 round, you said that a judge cannot score it a 10-8 round unless the ref officially rules it a KD. That's simply 100% incorrect. If a judge feels it is a 10-8 round for any reason, whether one fighter has dominated it or CLEARLY knocked the other down, then he/she can score it 10-8. That's the 10 point must system. Floyd was clearly knocked down. 10-8 round is the correct score for a judge that is paying attention. Just like you don't HAVE to score it 10-8 even if there is a knockdown. But Judah not only clearly won the round but he also clearly knocked Floyd down. 10-8 round. Floyd won the fight 115-112. By 3 points.


                  Less wordy, but still reeking of desperation and anger at having your non sense pointed out.

                  Suggesting none of the judges saw that slip and were ignorant is outright laughable.

                  Professional judges will NOT score a knock down that the ref hasn't ruled as such. There may be a very rare occasion when it has happened, but it is definatly not the norm.

                  That was not a 10-8 round, and you scoring it as such in unrealistic and ignorant.

                  I realize that angers you, but it makes you look like an idiot.

                  Oh, and debating who Floyd has and hasn't fought isn't going to make you hinting he isn't the top pound for pound fighter any less ******. You can knock anyone's resume.

                  Bottom line is he's atop the pound for pound list right now, and you suggesting or hinting otherwise is as ****** as you scoring that round 10-8 and suggesting everyone at the fight got it wrong but you were right.

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                  • #59
                    LOL Now, who is writing the essays?

                    OK, you avoided my direct question to you for a 2nd time. So you can reign as P4P #1 without fighting the best fighters in your division for basically four years. Sure, ok. I'm happy for him. P4P #1 he is then. Whoopee-doo! Calzaghe just utterly dominated the best fighter in his division. Taylor just beat the best in his twice. Wright has been on a roll and is now clearly fighting the best in his, as is Taylor for a 3RD TIME IN AS MANY FIGHTS. And Pac? Good god, the man ONLY fights the best. P4P? Who cares? I'll take those guys ANY DAY OF THE WEEK over showcase wins over losing fighters. You disagree? No problem. We admire different things in the sport. That is clear.

                    Oh, and wait a sec. Stop the presses. Please tell me that you are not debating me about that being a clear knockdown. Are you seriously calling that a "slip"? I almost hope you are. Please clarify. You went from saying if the ref doesn't rule it a KD then you can't score the round 10-8 to weaseling in that little "slip" comment. LOL Bozo, I don't know what I would do for amusement if you weren't around, bud. Keep them coming, please. This is amusing.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
                      LOL Now, who is writing the essays?

                      OK, you avoided my direct question to you for a 2nd time. So you can reign as P4P #1 without fighting the best fighters in your division for basically four years. Sure, ok. I'm happy for him. P4P #1 he is then. Whoopee-doo! Calzaghe just utterly dominated the best fighter in his division. Taylor just beat the best in his twice. Wright has been on a roll and is now clearly fighting the best in his, as is Taylor for a 3RD TIME IN AS MANY FIGHTS. And Pac? Good god, the man ONLY fights the best. P4P? Who cares? I'll take those guys ANY DAY OF THE WEEK over showcase wins over losing fighters. You disagree? No problem. We admire different things in the sport. That is clear.

                      Oh, and wait a sec. Stop the presses. Please tell me that you are not debating me about that being a clear knockdown. Are you seriously calling that a "slip"? I almost hope you are. Please clarify. You went from saying if the ref doesn't rule it a KD then you can't score the round 10-8 to weaseling in that little "slip" comment. LOL Bozo, I don't know what I would do for amusement if you weren't around, bud. Keep them coming, please. This is amusing.

                      It is amusing, becuase like anytime you speak to me, it's from right out of your ass.

                      That round was not a 10-8 round, and that's the bottom line. You seem to be suggesting that everyone at the fight missed it, which is outright hilarious. No one will score a 10-8 round for a knock down that isn't called when the round isn't one sided. Period.

                      Your scoring of that round is unrealistic and ignorant, and that's all there is to it.

                      2nd, I'm not interested in entertaining any questions you have about Mayweather's tenure at the top of the pound for pound list. His ability, resume, and moving up in sevaral weight classes speak for themselves.

                      I love how the 1st name you suggest is Calzahge, who has ONE good win in his own division. What's that smell? Oh, right, bull ****.



                      All this after proclaiming you don't like to talk about pound for pound rankings.

                      You just keep getting more and more humerous.

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