Who's undefeated record is more impressive Mayweather or Ottke

[The Big Dunn]

When I assess a fighters resume I usually do not factor in why the fights happened when they did. The bottom line for me is who did this person fight, when did they fight, and how did they perform.

I don't care for instance why Lennox Lewis fought Mike Tyson when he did, all I know is he fought super washed up Tyson so I can't make much out of that performance. That might not be Lewis's fault, but that doesn't mean I should give him any more credit than the fight actually warrants.

I think the way you judge is resume is the right way. Unfortunately we are on NSB where posters make a resume who you didn't fight and denigrating those who were defeated. Gets boring after a while.

Floyd's resume makes him a 1st ballot HOF'er. Any criticisms of it automatically weakens the resume of all other active boxers as he is one of the very few with a 1st ballot HOF resume.

[El-blanco]

So a guy being ranked #2 or #3 p4p in the world and being the 2nd best ww in the world is 1/50th of his prime? Man GTFOH. See my response to Mr Fantastic.

that's it pull out a ****** abstract, unprovable, ranking system like p4p to tell me how good pacquaio was. Think for yourself.

[DeadLikeMe]

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Floyd ruined their lives.

[The Big Dunn]

Like Floyd vs Castillo 1?

99% of the people that think Floyd lost Floyd v Castillo 1 are just as insane as 99% of the people who think Manny lost Manny v Bradley 1.

[kafkod]

Both were WBA Super world Super-weight champions.

But Ottke defended his Super world Super-MW title more often than Floyd defended the Super world Super-WW title. So Ottke clearly has the better record.

[The Big Dunn]

that's it pull out a ****** abstract, unprovable, ranking system like p4p to tell me how good pacquaio was. Think for yourself.

******, abstract and unproveable. I will remember these terms for the future.

I am thinking for myself. If you want to say Manny was not prime-we agree. If you want to retroactively over exaggerate how far he was from prime and join the pack of Spoon23, pac boy, ADOP2, MisanthropicnY, etc., be my guest.

Manny went from live dog before the fight to dead dog after it in the minds of those that picked him to win.

[PAC-BOY]

99% of the people that think Floyd lost Floyd v Castillo 1 are just as insane as 99% of the people who think Manny lost Manny v Bradley 1.

No...99% of the people with eyeballs and only half a brain know Floyd lost.
Like 99 % of the people with eyeballs and only half a brain Know Bradly lost.

[PAC-BOY]

Ottke was a waaaaaaaaaaaay more exciting fighter than Floyd!

[ИATAS]

99% of the people that think Floyd lost Floyd v Castillo 1 are just as insane as 99% of the people who think Manny lost Manny v Bradley 1.

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[El-blanco]

******, abstract and unproveable. I will remember these terms for the future.

I am thinking for myself. If you want to say Manny was not prime-we agree. If you want to over exaggerate how far he was from prime-then join the pack of Spoon23, pac boy, ADOP2, MisanthropicnY, etc., be my guest.

P4p is an abstract, unprovable, ranking system. Do you have any education? Nothing about it can be proven because most of the fighters on it don't fight one another or their contemporaries. Having a conversation about hypothetical fights doesn't make it valid just because the boxing world says so.