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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #181
    Originally posted by daggum
    you have no idea what is happening when you watch fights if you are seriously saying that. why would rodriguez hold ward? rodriguez was throwing bombs at ward and ward had to hold to stop his intensity. after 4 rounds the ref threatened to take away his purse so he stopped pressuring ward and ward just pot shotted to an easy victory.

    also he didnt' hold because smith wasn't doing anything but standing there with his gloves up not throwing punches but you should have noticed that the one time smith hit ward with a great shot what did ward do? immediately started holding and bending below the waist like he always does when he wants to get out of trouble. he's just a cheat when the going gets tough. thee kessler, bika, and rodriguez fights should be proof enough. if he fights ggg it will be the same garbage and you will pretend its ggg holding.
    No it was Rodriguez, there was a part of me that wanted to see Rodriguez hurt him because of Ward's refusal to test and the excuses that came. What I saw was Rodriguez smothering his own working and holding.

    None of the bold needed to be addressed, Ward wasn't dirty against Smith and that's final.

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      #182
      Originally posted by Eastcoast
      Weak. Bute's got a 72" reach, Ward has 71", not much rangier. Bika/Ward was an exceptionally ugly fight from both sides.

      You didn't address anything from the first video, you just said it was biasedly edited. Regardless of Kessler's inability to inside fight and instead hold, Ward initiated the clinches excessively. Ward/Hunter's game plan was to clinch and turn Kessler to cause him to constantly reset his offense.
      Even then, your asking that he adapt his style or fight out of a southpaw stance, wasn't smart of you to even suggest he fight like Bute regardless. Look at Bika's history and leave it at that.

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      • aldo5408
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        #183
        Originally posted by El-blanco
        Willis Monroe has no self respect and is basically a complaining ***** in this interview. He could barely stand up without his knees buckling yet he acts like it was a conscious decision to stop fighting. He was way out of his league but is making excuses.
        Hey Brody do you know where I can find the video? I remember monroe saying he would beat giggi in a. Rematch lol

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        • just the facts
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          #184
          Originally posted by Barcham
          On which of the hundreds if not thousands of P4P lists that exist? Everyone has their own and Ward is not even on mine. Even if he did end up as number 1 on the RING list, what would that give him? It gives him no extra bargaining power for fights, it gives him no extra money. Being number 1 P4P and a 5 dollar bill will get you a large coffee at Starbucks. Same as if you were not number 1 P4P.

          P4P lists mean absolutely nothing. They give the fans something to brag about, nothing more.

          Beating Lee may well be the final part needed to unify all the Middleweight division titles. And yes, that is more important to Golovkin and to boxing history than one fight against an over rated former SMW champion.
          If you think beating bums like LeMew, Lee and a 160lb Cotto are more important historically than a win over a great fighter like Ward, you're dead wrong. I see where this fits your agenda, but you're lying to yourself

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          • HeroBando
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            #185
            Originally posted by just the facts
            And you've seen the Ward/ggg polls on NSB. Overwhelmingly for Ward. Team ggg are the ones who robbed the fans of the fight they deserve. Hard to imagine that a win over Ward would put ggg is boxings drivers seat and they passed!
            So what are you saying, fans deserve fights they deem non competitive? You might wanna try again after thinking this through

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            • just the facts
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              #186
              Originally posted by i'm a fun haver
              Hey, Capt. Hindsight. Bute was SMW #2 undefeated and had the IBF belt at the time and Ward didn't want any part of him.
              Everyone who believes that any version of Bute beats any version of Ward, SOUND OFF!

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              • bojangles1987
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                #187
                Originally posted by T18Z
                I haven't seen you trash Ward recently for anything, but you attack Golovkin whenever you can. I'm also not sure when my opinion has ever changed regarding this topic, but keep spouting crap to put yourself on a pedestal.

                And by calling everyone cowards, you mean Froch, who you seem to be emotionally attached to.
                Whenever I can. Please. I ignore most of these threads because it's just Fl0mos hating on Golovkin for no reason but his skin color and Floyd haters hating Ward for the same reason. There's like 5 of these every day, and I posted in like 2 or 3 in the past week.

                There's been nothing to trash Ward for recently. What am I supposed to trash him for? His desire to fight Golovkin? That's the only news regarding Ward recently. There's the rumor about fighting on the Cotto/Alvarez undercard, which I said Ward should do because he's not in position to be picky, otherwise there's nothing about Ward to talk about. So if I don't go out of my way to criticize Ward for nothing but criticize Golovkin and his team for the diarrhea spewing out of their mouths, that means I hate Golovkin?

                Yes, I'm a Froch fan. But I'm not happy that he talked so much **** and then retired. I really wanted to see Froch/Golovkin. But I'm also not a jackass who shouted duck or coward over that because that is ridiculous. Froch deserved whatever fight he wanted after a great career. If Golovkin ever puts together a career that good, he can do the same. That's the privilege you earn when you do what Froch did.

                I don't even think Golovkin is ducking Ward. I get what Golovkin is doing and have no problem with it. He wants Cotto/Alvarez. Until he knows whether he will get to fight the winner of that fight, he doesn't want to move up. There's nothing wrong with that. But his trainer and promoter have been talking absolute nonsense. They've been saying the same kind of **** that Golovkin fans rip other fighters to shreds over, yet they buy into it like little girls buy Justin Bieber. None of them are consistent. They feed into whatever ****** excuse Team Golovkin makes each day, no matter how hypocritical. They use Sergey Kovalev as a shield, and then try to talk all this crap about Golovkin being better than Kovalev. They all hated finances and PPV sales until Golovkin started talking about it.

                It's pathetic. And it's the reason fighters can duck the Golovkins of the boxing world, because of what Golovkin is doing now that he's in a position to make demands. He has no right to talk about fighters making "business decisions" now that he's so fond of them himself.

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                • Doctor_Tenma
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by just the facts
                  Everyone who believes that any version of Bute beats any version of Ward, SOUND OFF!
                  Never understood the hype with Bute, all he had was that garbage jab of his and that counter left uppercut which if he didn't land he would struggle, that's by far one of the weakest arsenals I've seen on a fighter who was that hyped. I'm glad Froch handled that.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #189
                    FFS, Golovkin fans actually tried to sell Wille Monroe as a better and more famous fighter than Erislandy Lara just because Team Golovkin said it. Tells you all you need to know about his fanbase lately.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987
                      I'm not defending Ward, I'm sick of Golovkin fans acting like hypocritical b*tches with their fighter after calling everyone cowards for saying the same **** Golovkin and his people are saying now. It's called consistency. I called those fighters out for what they said to not fight Golovkin, and I'm doing the same now that Golovkin is playing games. When Stevenson ducked Kovalev, i criticized him. When Kovalev walked away from the purse bid, I criticized him. If Ward moves up and ducks Kovalev, I'll shout as loud as anyone about it, just like I have before.

                      Unlike you and the huge majority of Golovkin fans, I don't change my opinions based on childish emotional attachment to fighters. I'm consistent in my opinions.
                      You're not making sense. You'll wait to criticize Ward until he's moved up and rejected Kovalev, despite his last fight at 172 and no options at 168. Yet Ggg has to move up when Ward wants it pronto, despite Ggg finally having great options at his weight. At 50-50 no less, despite Gggs bigger draw status and the weight concession

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