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  • 2shameless
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    #231
    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    Beterbiev right now would be a cakewalk for Ward. Maybe that's different in a year or so.
    Not sure how long Beterbiev can continue to make LHW, but he's not going to be a "cakewalk" for anybody while he's there. Dude probably would've been a HW gold medalist if it weren't for Usyk, even their fight was close.

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      #232
      Originally posted by bojangles1987
      Yep. He was hurt and didn't want to come back until summer. Bute didn't want to wait.
      Bute was going to be added to the Super 6 as a replacement after he signed a contract with Showtime.
      Dan Goossen threw a **** fit and threatened to pull Ward out of the tournament.
      They never wanted any part of Bute.

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        #233
        Bute was going to be added to the Super 6 as a replacement after he signed a contract with Showtime.
        Dan Goossen threw a **** fit and threatened to pull Ward out of the tournament.
        They never wanted any part of Bute.
        I've followed every fight in the tournament and never hear this about Ward and Bute. Kinda hard to believe that Ward would care so much about Bute when Kessler and Froch were the clear favorites of the tournament.

        Doesn't really matter though. The truth is that Ward was hurt so Froch stepped up and Ko'd Bute. Why is this such a big deal?

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          #234
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
          Little G ducked Ward, that stain isn't ever going away.
          Can't duck someone who fights in a different division. If Ward was serious about fighting Golovkin, he would have offered to drop to 160 and fight the people's champion at his own weight class.

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            #235
            Originally posted by firstborn
            I've followed every fight in the tournament and never hear this about Ward and Bute. Kinda hard to believe that Ward would care so much about Bute when Kessler and Froch were the clear favorites of the tournament.

            Doesn't really matter though. The truth is that Ward was hurt so Froch stepped up and Ko'd Bute. Why is this such a big deal?
            If you had been in Montreal, you would have read about it in the press here quite often. Sports reporters here were quite upset that Bute was being kept out of the tournament when he was one of the hottest fighters at the time.

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              #236
              Originally posted by firstborn
              I've followed every fight in the tournament and never hear this about Ward and Bute. Kinda hard to believe that Ward would care so much about Bute when Kessler and Froch were the clear favorites of the tournament.

              Doesn't really matter though. The truth is that Ward was hurt so Froch stepped up and Ko'd Bute. Why is this such a big deal?
              No, the truth is that Ward talked his way out of fighting Bute in the Super 6 final post fight interview, despite saying this before the tournament final:


              Bute had better performances vs common opponents, had the IBF belt, was undefeated and was #2 at SMW when the Super6 was over and Ward did not want any part of Bute in Canada or Oakland.
              No one said Ward had to fight Bute before his broken hand healed. Ward just did not want it.

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                #237
                If you had been in Montreal, you would have read about it in the press here quite often. Sports reporters here were quite upset that Bute was being kept out of the tournament when he was one of the hottest fighters at the time.
                Fair enough. Sure there are lots of behind the scene things that most fans aren't privy to. For the record though, Ward still couldn't have fought Bute for the aforementioned reasons. Would have been an interesting fight though.

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                  #238
                  Originally posted by i'm a fun haver
                  Bute was going to be added to the Super 6 as a replacement after he signed a contract with Showtime.
                  Dan Goossen threw a **** fit and threatened to pull Ward out of the tournament.
                  They never wanted any part of Bute.
                  Right Ward wanted no part of a guy who has never been tested instead he went on to fight Froch and Kessler

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                    #239
                    No, the truth is that Ward talked his way out of fighting Bute in the Super 6 final post fight interview, despite saying this before the tournament final:


                    Bute had better performances vs common opponents, had the IBF belt, was undefeated and was #2 at SMW when the Super6 was over and Ward did not want any part of Bute in Canada or Oakland.
                    No one said Ward had to fight Bute before his broken hand healed. Ward just did not want it.
                    Bute could have waited until Ward healed then called him out. Instead he lost to Froch, how is that Ward's fault? Ward gave his honest opinion stating he thought Bute was overrated and didn't deserve a shot at the title after Ward had just completed the tournament against a tough opponent in Froch.

                    Doesn't make a difference if you agree with Ward, that was his opinion. I'm guessing Ward felt Bute was protected, the gift he received from the ref during the first Andrade fight might have had something to do with that perception.

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                      #240
                      Originally posted by imperial1
                      Right Ward wanted no part of a guy who has never been tested instead he went on to fight Froch and Kessler
                      "Went on to" ****.
                      Ward fought Froch and Kessler DURING the Super 6 tournament.
                      Before the final, Ward and Froch both said the winner should fight Bute and clean out the division.
                      In the post fight interview after the final, Ward talked his way out of that fight.
                      After the super 6 final...AFTER the Super 6 final.
                      AFTER THE SUPER 6 FINAL
                      Ward talked his way out of fighting Bute.
                      Why is this timeline so hard to understand?
                      Which way are you going to go now?
                      "Why did Bute duck the Super6 tournament then?" or "Well we seen what Froch did to Bute, so Ward didn't have to fight him anyways."

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