The Fight Nobody is Talking About: Yamanaka vs Moreno

[-Kev-]

But it goes both ways. Broner was a 3 division champion and was elected the greatest fighter of the next generation. Chocolito did the exact same thing and when he finally gets credit its because of boxing hipsters giving credit to unkowns?

Who elected Broner as the greatest fighter of the next gen? Not saying it's a lie, just im here almost everyday and never saw that other than Larry saying it. Is there a link of this election/poll?

[crold1]

Well in The Ring's annual rankings, Abner Mares was never in the top 10 P4P. If he ever got in it, it was for a couple of months.

That might be because he lost to Gonzalez eight months later. What do you mean if? I gave you a link to them announcing it. LOL Or you can google it. I can give you a link to google if you need to.

[-PBP-]

Who elected Broner as the greatest fighter of the next gen? Not saying it's a lie, just im here almost everyday and never saw that other than Larry saying it. Is there a link of this election/poll?

#5 pound for pound for defeating Antonio DeMarco. You couldn't watch a Broner fight without hearing Floyd's name. After beating Paulie the momentum picked up further. Youngest 3 division champion in history.

This situation is no different. A 3 division champion getting recognized by the ring. And a far more deserving one at that.

[-Hyperion-]

But it goes both ways. Broner was a 3 division champion and was elected the greatest fighter of the next generation. Chocolito did the exact same thing and when he finally gets credit its because of boxing hipsters giving credit to unkowns?

To the bolded, yep, we just happen to be talking about the hipster bias in this thread....I knew Broner was crap from the first fight i saw of him when he needed a gift versus Ponce De Leon...and you had the so called analysts and experts on his jock...but yeah, Broner is the other side of the coin, the American bias of the analysts/experts along with the influence of the propaganda of major networks/promoters.........when Chuck Giampa was doing the p4p list on ring he had three undeserving GBP fighters in there(Canelo, Guerrero, Broner)....that doesn't mean the hipster bias doesn't exist though...

[Dr Rumack]

Don't think I've watched Moreno since the Mares fight. Thought Mares won that fight clearly too, despite a lot of people thinking the judges had it too wide. Yamanaka has a booming straight left, not sure how good a boxer he actually is though.

[-Kev-]

That might be because he lost to Gonzalez eight months later. What do you mean if? I gave you a link to them announcing it. LOL Or you can google it. I can give you a link to google if you need to.

You gave me no proper link. The link was invalid.

So he was in the P4P rankings for 8 of 12 months and was not included in The Ring annual rankings for that year? That makes no sense, elaborate.

[-Kev-]

This is a Ring P4P update one month after Mares beat Moreno. You said The Ring put Mares in the top 10 after that win, but when exactly did it happen?


Source:
http://r ingtv.craveonline.com/news/176417-ring-ratings-update-mayweather-is-back-at-pound-for-pound-no-1

[-PBP-]

This is a Ring P4P update one month after Mares beat Moreno. You said The Ring put Mares in the top 10 after that win, but when exactly did it happen?


Source:
http://r ingtv.craveonline.com/news/176417-ring-ratings-update-mayweather-is-back-at-pound-for-pound-no-1

http://******.craveonline.com/news/1...mares-advances

[crold1]

You gave me no proper link. The link was invalid.

So he was in the P4P rankings for 8 of 12 months and was not included in The Ring annual rankings for that year? That makes no sense, elaborate.

I had to pull back issues because I remembered he was high going into Jhonny and knew he went in after Moreno...so he replaced Moreno at ten in the Feb 2013 issue...then they moved Guerrero ahead of him next issue ...then Donaire slipped down and over both to make room for Rigo...then Mares was back up to #5 (Sep 2013 issue) after Ponce...and then out in one (literal and figurative). Anyways, didn't realize link failed; should have went to the online Ring update.

But to your original point, he did get P4P love for the Moreno win.

[-Kev-]

#5 pound for pound for defeating Antonio DeMarco. You couldn't watch a Broner fight without hearing Floyd's name. After beating Paulie the momentum picked up further. Youngest 3 division champion in history.

This situation is no different. A 3 division champion getting recognized by the ring. And a far more deserving one at that.

That's not what I remember.

First, wheh he beat DeMarco, DM was #1 ranked LW and WBC champ. It was a fighter that critics said if Broner beat him he is the goods. Broner KO'ed him and anti-Floyd fans started saying Broner will be better and more exciting than Floyd.

Secondly, as soon as the Rees fight happened posters like myself and IronDan became unimpressed by Broner and saw the holes in his game. The Malignaggi fight did the opposite of what you said it did, to most people it further showed Broner is too flawed and too small for WW. I personally scored that fight a Draw, and always had since the second I saw it live. Broner was only favored to beat Maidana because Maidana looked bad against Lopez and JSK.

Lastly, your response shows a far cry from "being elected as the greatest fighter of the next gen". That has been laughable since it has been mentioned. The second it was mentioned, fans laughed at it, even before the Maidana fight. In the thread that started the whole talk by Larry, most posters disagreed with it.