Comments Thread For: Team Golovkin Will Want More Than 50% From Ward

[aboutfkntime]

First point, Herobando was talking about Floyd, not Cotto. He was pointing out that GGG said he would move down to 154 for Floyd.

Second point. GGG's team have stated specifically, several times, that he would only move up to 168 for a ppv fight.

GGG/Ward would not be a ppv fight. HBO have already made that clear. If GGG can unify the MW division, it would become a ppv fight, but no way could Ward expect a 50/50 split under those circumstances. 60/40 would be more than generous, imo.

Well, so long as you are happy that Golovkin clearly wants nothing to do with Ward, then fine, I have no problem either.

But that could be an ok fight, and Golovkin may benefit from having at least one excellent scalp on his resume.

[HeroBando]

Then dont reply to me.

It is useless discussing/debating with uninformed or ignorant people.

If Golovkin wants to use a catchweight to duck Ward, and then he wants to flatly refuse a catchweight to duck Cotto..... then I guess I'm fine with that, just so long as you are.

I know the gist already: you're always repeating ****** and discredited points, totally unable to learn or think. Take this post above for example.

How may times do you need it explained, moron: Cotto is The MW champ ranked above GGG in every decent MW ranking. A CW request for 3 title + lineal is a fcuking DISGRACE, and your sorry know nothing a$$ can't stop cheering for it.

[OnePunch]

Then dont reply to me.

It is useless discussing/debating with uninformed or ignorant people.

If Golovkin wants to use a catchweight to duck Ward, and then he wants to flatly refuse a catchweight to duck Cotto..... then I guess I'm fine with that, just so long as you are.

the only way that comparison would be valid would be if GGG went up to 168 and won a title, and THEN demanded a catchweight from other 168 champs, such as Ward.

He has not done that.

[Travycat]

Too many suits mucking up boxing not making fights happen.

[Barcham]

I have seen those statements, but it is my opinion that should Cotto win and K2 is presented with a "157 or no fight" scenario from Cotto, if Abel and GGG are comfortable making 157 I believe they will do it, smash Cotto's face in, and win the lineal title in addition to the WBC title, instead of just letting Cotto vacate.

But thats just my opinion. is also my opinion that Cotto wont beat Canelo so this might all be moot lol


And the word "impose" is really just semantics. Cotto can indeed "impose" conditions should he beat Canelo. Sure, those conditions would not apply in a purse bid scenario, but nobody that I know believes for 1 second that this fight would ever go to bid. They will either make a deal, or Cotto will vacate. There will be no bid. And if they make a deal, I'd bet a steak dinner that Cotto will be "imposing" conditions on the weight, and a host of other things.....

Cotto? Huh? Cotto ain't getting past Canelo and Cotto would never request a catchweight above 155 for a GGG fight. Actually I don't think Cotto would even waste time trying to negotiate a catch weight. He would go straight to vacate the title. If he was to some miraculous way manage to beat Canelo, he might even hand the title to Golovkin immediately after the fight to save the embarrassment of being stripped.

Golovkin would never accept a catchweight for a MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE FIGHT and I would bet 10 Grand on that right now. What GGG wants is the title and if the winner insists on a catchweight or they will vacate, go right ahead and vacate because the title goes directly around Golovkin's waist. And THAT is the only thing that matters.

I do agree that there will not be a bid because if Cotto wins, there will not be a fight. If Canelo wins, he will accept the fight at 160 or simply vacate. Canelo will not play games.

[oneon11]

An obvious chicken. ...

Andre Ward is just as white as GGG is, street animal

Lil g/chicken g/scared g or whatever this bum goes by these days should be banned from the sport of boxing. He hasn't done anything near what guy's like Andre Ward, Froch, Kessler and other Super 6 fighters have done to even be considered for a 50-50 split. It's comical that casual boxing fans don't have the knowledge to see this bum is another Pacroid in a different weight class fighting leftovers or lesser opponents and making heat off another man's name. Lil g hasn't done anything in the sport of boxing to warrant any leverage when negotiations ever start for a fight against Andre Ward. I do hope the fight does happen so Ward can close the book on this hyped up bum. ..

[kafkod]

Golovkin said the exact same thing.

They flatly refused to give the Cotto/Canelo winner a catchweight.

And this is despite Canelo weighing 155 and Cotto weighing 153.

Golovkin demands a catchweight from Ward - despite being willing to fight Froch/Chavez at 168 - and he justified that demand by stating that he is the A-side..... then he totally refused to give Cotto/Canelo a catchweight, DESPITE them being the A-side.

During negotiation, it seems to be Golovkins way or the highway.

If you accept that, then you MUST accept his resume at face value.

It is impossible to make excuses for Golovkins resume if you accept and condone those ridiculous negotiating methods.

Golovkin really does appear to be a manufactured fighter.

If GGG held a title at 168 and was asking for a catchweight of 164 to defend it against Ward, then you would have a point.

But he doesn't and he isn't, so what you wrote there is just ******.

GGG is an Olympic silver medalist, with an amateur record of 345-5.

Never been dropped or stopped, amateur or pro.

He has fought everybody who would fight him in his division, ducking nobody, and is undefeated with a 90% KO record. He holds 2 world title belts and has KO'd 4 top 10 rated challengers in the last 2 years.

And you, who have never put on a pair of boxing gloves in your life, and don't even know the difference between weight divisions and weight limits, are calling him a manufactured fighter.

LMFAO!

[HeroBando]

Cotto? Huh? Cotto ain't getting past Canelo and Cotto would never request a catchweight above 155 for a GGG fight. Actually I don't think Cotto would even waste time trying to negotiate a catch weight. He would go straight to vacate the title. If he was to some miraculous way manage to beat Canelo, he might even hand the title to Golovkin immediately after the fight to save the embarrassment of being stripped.

Golovkin would never accept a catchweight for a MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE FIGHT and I would bet 10 Grand on that right now. What GGG wants is the title and if the winner insists on a catchweight or they will vacate, go right ahead and vacate because the title goes directly around Golovkin's waist. And THAT is the only thing that matters.

I do agree that there will not be a bid because if Cotto wins, there will not be a fight. If Canelo wins, he will accept the fight at 160 or simply vacate. Canelo will not play games.

I disagree, IMO they'd do a CW for the right price. How much, I dunno, but I bet 5m would do, for example.

[HeroBando]

Lil g/chicken g/scared g or whatever this bum goes by these days should be banned from the sport of boxing. He hasn't done anything near what guy's like Andre Ward, Froch, Kessler and other Super 6 fighters have done to even be considered for a 50-50 split. It's comical that casual boxing fans don't have the knowledge to see this bum is another Pacroid in a different weight class fighting leftovers or lesser opponents and making heat off another man's name. Lil g hasn't done anything in the sport of boxing to warrant any leverage when negotiations ever start for a fight against Andre Ward. I do hope the fight does happen so Ward can close the book on this hyped up bum. ..

You're an idiot, nothing new. 50-50 is not about resume, which is why Chavez would be making the lion's share vs Ward. Learn boxing.

[kafkod]

I disagree, IMO they'd do a CW for the right price. How much, I dunno, but I bet 5m would do, for example.

They might accept a CW, for the right price, but only if they are sure GGG could handle it and still perform at 100%

I don't think GGG would sell his chance to win that belt, for any price.