Comments Thread For: Team Golovkin Will Want More Than 50% From Ward

[tiliheels]

The Lemieux fight is on PPV because that's the only way they can have enough money to make the fight. Golden Boy and Lemieux weren't going to fight Golovkin for regular HBO money, the pot had to be a substantially rewarding enough to take the risk. The only way for that to happen was to put it on PPV. Of course they are HOPING it's a huge success and that Gennady becomes a PPV attraction, but that wasn't the main motivation for making this fight PPV.

i was going to insult u for telling me wat i already wrote in other comments...but im not..u're right any fight that hbo cant budget gets ppv..same with showtime and likely will be the same with pbc at some time in the future..

[tiliheels]

The Lemieux fight is on PPV because that's the only way they can have enough money to make the fight. Golden Boy and Lemieux weren't going to fight Golovkin for regular HBO money, the pot had to be a substantially rewarding enough to take the risk. The only way for that to happen was to put it on PPV. Of course they are HOPING it's a huge success and that Gennady becomes a PPV attraction, but that wasn't the main motivation for making this fight PPV.

like i said i know this info already,, only problem is that they are telling u ward cant sell on ppv as if ggg needs a b side...thats the joke,,,i expect gggward late 2016 or early 2017...

[i'm a fun haver]

Who is Ward fighting next and when? lol

[HeroBando]

no i didnt misss your point..u just made a joke of a point..ggg is ppv worthy alone is basically wat hbo is trying to sell the casual...and based on tickets sold they are right...now add ward to that mix...much better than david L..
u have something for the casual and a p4p fight for the hardcore..

tickets supposed to transalate to ppv according to Richard S.
so if he is right then GGG will be a star that does not need a Bside

GGG cannot carry a PPV against just anyone yet, hell nobody expected HBO would put him on PPV already. It's a gamble, but everything lines up: title unification, dynamite punching, all action opponent who's also charismatic, doesn't ask for a ton of money and brings a fair chunk of his own. No buyer remorse, guaranteed. None of this holds for Ward.

[tiliheels]

GGG cannot carry a PPV against just anyone yet, hell nobody expected HBO would put him on PPV already. It's a gamble, but everything lines up: title unification, dynamite punching, all action opponent who's also charismatic, doesn't ask for a ton of money and brings a fair chunk of his own. No buyer remorse, guaranteed. None of this holds for Ward.

u're point is moot hbo does not carry the burden if ppv tanks..the promoter does...hbo isnt paying anyone but he cable company this go around and then GGG and others will get theirs

[Barcham]

thats not totally accurate. Although you are correct in that conditions cannot be imposed if it goes to a purse bid, they are free to negotiate whatever they want prior to the fight going to bid.

The leverage that the mandatory challenger has over a voluntary, is that he can refuse to budge on the terms and the champ has to either participate in the purse bid at the full weight, or vacate / get stripped.

The word IMPOSE means NO negotiations. A champion cannot IMPOSE conditions on a mandatory defense. Yes, he can attempt to negotiate whatever the hell he wants - he can try to negotiate that Golovkin is only allowed to use jabs or must fight with one arm tied behind his back, but the challenger is in no way obligated to even take part in such negotiations. Golovkin and Loeffler have already stated on numerous occasions that they will NEVER ACCEPT A CATCHWEIGHT for a MIDDLEWEIGHT fight under any circumstances.

And seeing as how Canelo will enter the ring against Cotto weighing well over 170 pounds, he will hardly have any valid grounds to attempt to negotiate a catchweight. Even bringing it up would make him look like a fool trying to gain an advantage and the boxing media will crucify him over it.

[OnePunch]

The word IMPOSE means NO negotiations. A champion cannot IMPOSE conditions on a mandatory defense. Yes, he can attempt to negotiate whatever the hell he wants - he can try to negotiate that Golovkin is only allowed to use jabs or must fight with one arm tied behind his back, but the challenger is in no way obligated to even take part in such negotiations. Golovkin and Loeffler have already stated on numerous occasions that they will NEVER ACCEPT A CATCHWEIGHT for a MIDDLEWEIGHT fight under any circumstances.

And seeing as how Canelo will enter the ring against Cotto weighing well over 170 pounds, he will hardly have any valid grounds to attempt to negotiate a catchweight. Even bringing it up would make him look like a fool trying to gain an advantage and the boxing media will crucify him over it.

I have seen those statements, but it is my opinion that should Cotto win and K2 is presented with a "157 or no fight" scenario from Cotto, if Abel and GGG are comfortable making 157 I believe they will do it, smash Cotto's face in, and win the lineal title in addition to the WBC title, instead of just letting Cotto vacate.

But thats just my opinion. is also my opinion that Cotto wont beat Canelo so this might all be moot lol


And the word "impose" is really just semantics. Cotto can indeed "impose" conditions should he beat Canelo. Sure, those conditions would not apply in a purse bid scenario, but nobody that I know believes for 1 second that this fight would ever go to bid. They will either make a deal, or Cotto will vacate. There will be no bid. And if they make a deal, I'd bet a steak dinner that Cotto will be "imposing" conditions on the weight, and a host of other things.....

[aboutfkntime]

A few days ago, promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions discussed the frustration being voiced out by super middleweight king Andre Ward.

Ward has been calling for a fight with IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, who Loeffler promotes. Ward says Loeffer and Golovkin are avoiding the fight and claimed Loeffler rejected an emailed offer for a 50-50 deal.
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WTF ?

First it was..... " anyone from 154-168 "

Then it was..... " 168 and 50/50 "

Then it became..... " 164 and 50/50 "

Now it is..... " 164 and 50% is not good enough "

NOTE: And they made this statement BEFORE beating Lemieux, they didn't even wait until Golovkin was available before making such a comment .

FACT: Team Golovkin want nothing to do with Ward.

Ward needs to move on, nothing to see here !

[imperial1]

WTF ?

First it was..... " anyone from 154-168 "

Then it was..... " 168 and 50/50 "

Then it became..... " 164 and 50/50 "

Now it is..... " 164 and 50% is not good enough "

NOTE: And they made this statement BEFORE beating Lemieux, they didn't even wait until Golovkin was available before making such a comment .

FACT: Team Golovkin want nothing to do with Ward.

Ward needs to move on, nothing to see here !

^ this


Man if Lemieux beats GGG I will love to resist this

[aboutfkntime]

GGG is willing to meet the small guy at his own weight, idiot.

No he is not, they flatly refused a catchweight for 153lb Cotto.

GGG is willing to meet the small guy at his own weight, idiot. Dropping in weight is a big concession. Ward is willing to make no such concession despite his B side status. Not to mention Floyd is still a bigger scalp than GGG, in rep and far more in money stakes. Just take your butthurt elsewhere, you're useless here.

Stop protecting your current girlfriend.

1) Ward knows Golovkin was willing to fight Froch/Chavez at 168

2) Ward cannot make 164

3) Golovkin knows that Ward cannot make 164, but he doesn't care

4) HeroBando knows that Ward cannot make 164, but he doesn't care

Who protects Golovkin while you sleep ?