Comments Thread For: Ariza Doubts Mayweather Returns, Slams The 'IV' Critics

[Pu·gi·list]

Oh look, We have a severely dehydrated man who needs 750 ml of IV hydration who can't hydrate the normal which is oral hydration.

This is a man who needs to go to the Hospital. A man who is so sick he can't open his mouth to drink Gatorade?

Yup he is severely sick alright

He looks so dehydrated that he couldn't walk, open his mouth, and needed 750ml of IV in his house.

[Divine Hammer]

He did nothing wrong at all

But let me guess, Pacs inexplicable refusal to test for 5 years has already been forgotten, and should never be mentioned again, right?

using iv therapy for non dehydration or even mild dehydration purpose goes against what wada recommends therefore goes against being given tue. look at my post above urs it tells the story for u. he is 150.5 lbs 3 weeks before fight ok seems fine everything looking good. at weigh-in he drinks liquids for all his welterweight weigh-ins taht is approrpiate and best preferred method according to wada. so in that case what is iv therapy necessary?? not for rehydration. in fact wada says if u can drink orally then ur not allwoed iv therapy. so yes what floyd did is wrong and what usada did by giving tue is wrong.

[Divine Hammer]

wada code for granting tue is specific. it states in part that if you can treat dehydration orally then iv therapy is not necessary or allowed. floyd 150.5 lbs 3 weeks before fight, drinks liquids in all his weigh-ins, says he makes welterweight fine (146 for pac and berto fights). so then how is it someone like this needs iv therapy for treating dehydration?????? iv therapy for dehydration is extreme case where the person can't rehydrate orally.

so what's floyd's purpose for this prohibited method????? if not for rehydration.

[Divine Hammer]

how is it floyd needs iv therapy??? it doesn't make sense. 150.5 lbs 3 weeks before fight, almost always weighs under the 147 lb limit, is capable of rehydrating orally (see above photo), says he makes welterweight easily and there is clear proof of this. so for what reason was he given a tue if he is able to rehydrate orally???? wada document for granting tue says that iv therapy is allowed if there are no other good options. but there is a good option for floyd. drinking liquids. in fact he is doing it in the photo above. so again, if floyd is easily able to make weight fine, and is more than capable of ingesting liquids to rehydrate. then the iv therapy serves another purpose. a more sinister purpose. and worse, usada and nsac are willing to help protect floyd.

[wlliam]

what makes you think so???

http://www.usada.org/is-it-prohibite...-and-recovery/


so you say that oral rehydration is not good. ok but then why usada wada medical journals say it's best preferred method?? who are u to say this and that and otherwise???? what are ur background?? education?? to say otherwsie. wada say that iv therapy not good for rehydration purposes. so then do they lie??? what in your opinion says they are wrong? to go against what has been studied already thoruoughly.



floyd definitely takes liquids to rehydarte properly. so then why the need for iv??? it all makes sense to see how this doesn't add up. then in ur opinion how in what way does floyd use iv for what purpose?? in ur opinion if not for rehydration.

I didnt say that oral hydration "isnt good", lets get that part straight, only that hydration isnt as simple as drinking water and ur hydrated. Its a bodily process that takes days to complete. Intravenous hydration is a shortcut that puts fluid straight into ur bloodstream, then into muscles and nerves.
Medical Journals prefer oral hydration as the best method?? Im not sure how much of that information would apply to sports and athletes bcuz an athletes metabolism works higher than ur average joe. As far as WADA, USADA, NSAC, they gave it the greenlight. My background need not apply however i have dealt with dehydration and administered IVs. Im not implying Floyd was dehydrated but if u knew anything about recovery, an IV isnt out of the question.

[aboutfkntime]

using iv therapy for non dehydration or even mild dehydration purpose goes against what wada recommends therefore goes against being given tue. look at my post above urs it tells the story for u. he is 150.5 lbs 3 weeks before fight ok seems fine everything looking good. at weigh-in he drinks liquids for all his welterweight weigh-ins taht is approrpiate and best preferred method according to wada. so in that case what is iv therapy necessary?? not for rehydration. in fact wada says if u can drink orally then ur not allwoed iv therapy. so yes what floyd did is wrong and what usada did by giving tue is wrong.

That is your opinion. But when the appropriate authorities investigate and comfirm that there was no wrongdoing, that is the fat lady singing.

It is possible that there is an i that was not dotted, or a t that was not crossed..... but who gives a shht about that?

All most people care about is.....

* are USADA abd NSAC sure that Mayweather is clean ?

* will USADA and NSAC be consistent ?

So long as the answer to both questions is YES, there is nothing to see.

[aboutfkntime]

how is it floyd needs iv therapy??? it doesn't make sense. 150.5 lbs 3 weeks before fight, almost always weighs under the 147 lb limit, is capable of rehydrating orally (see above photo), says he makes welterweight easily and there is clear proof of this. so for what reason was he given a tue if he is able to rehydrate orally???? wada document for granting tue says that iv therapy is allowed if there are no other good options. but there is a good option for floyd. drinking liquids. in fact he is doing it in the photo above. so again, if floyd is easily able to make weight fine, and is more than capable of ingesting liquids to rehydrate. then the iv therapy serves another purpose. a more sinister purpose. and worse, usada and nsac are willing to help protect floyd.

I am not even gonna argue with you.

You could be 100% correct.

Mayweather may have operated outside their standard protocol.

But so long as he wasn't juicing, and was cleared by USADA, so be it.

So long as Mayweather wasn't juicing, and so long as USADA/NSAC did not bend the rules for Mayweather, I'm good with it.

Its not like Mayweather refused random blood tests or anything.

[JrX]

That is your opinion. But when the appropriate authorities investigate and comfirm that there was no wrongdoing, that is the fat lady singing.

It is possible that there is an i that was not dotted, or a t that was not crossed..... but who gives a shht about that?

All most people care about is.....

* are USADA abd NSAC sure that Mayweather is clean ?

* will USADA and NSAC be consistent ?

So long as the answer to both questions is YES, there is nothing to see.

Your such a tool, if i was a fraud fan i would call him out. He got away with it sure, he'll still make vegas money.

[ADP02]

So USADA requested it now? Well okie dokie

Did he just say that USADA requested it....

The more they talk, the more the story changes!

[ADP02]

That is your opinion. But when the appropriate authorities investigate and comfirm that there was no wrongdoing, that is the fat lady singing.

It is possible that there is an i that was not dotted, or a t that was not crossed..... but who gives a shht about that?

All most people care about is.....

* are USADA abd NSAC sure that Mayweather is clean ?

* will USADA and NSAC be consistent ?

So long as the answer to both questions is YES, there is nothing to see.

Lots of inconsistencies in their stories. They can't even keep to the same lines. So I guess that you are now going to switch sides due to their inconsistencies?

USADA said that Mayweather requested for the IV. Here, Ariza said it was USADA that requested for the IV.


Here is another inconsistency below. After a few days, the stories they give also changes.

In a statement released Thursday morning, a USADA spokeswoman said, ;Mr. Mayweathers use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today;

Yet, Bennett and commission Chairman Francisco Aguilar sharply disagree, explaining the Nevada commission has not adopted the World Anti-Doping Agency codes prohibited methods.




Bennett said unless the IV was administered at a hospital, it needs to be cleared by filing a the****utic-use exemption, or TUE, and supporting documents through the Nevada commission and authorized by the commissions medical expert.

He cannot have it done at his house and [USADA] cant authorize it.... I have specifically articulated and memorialized to USADA that [NSAC] is the sole authority that can authorize a the****utic-use exemption for a fighter in the state of Nevada; Bennett said. ;USADA never told us prior to the IV that they had their own TUE, and they never kept us informed about it being administered.

If they think they can do what they want, where and whenever they want in the state of Nevada, they are grossly mistaken.









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