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  • MisanthropicNY
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    #271
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    Who said anything about extreme dehydration 750 ml is not a large dose , again you idiots are on nothing more than a extremely biased witch hunt , IV fluids before an event has been used for prehydration for years in lots of different sports , simply because the hydration crossover to the system is so much faster without consuming triple the volume in fluids where it makes some athletes nauseas , there is a lot of evidence and reference to it if you care to look at all things relative .

    I believe they put 2 bags into Oscar before the Manny fight and thats 2000ml and he only gained 2lb on fight night .
    So first you say 750 ml is not a lot but then it'll make someone nauseous to drink? 750 ml which is about 25.4 OZ of fluids could make someone nauseous? LOL...

    So you think a person would rather shoot up saline and 750 ml rather than drink 25.4 oz of fluids?...

    Wow that makes no sense I'm sorry...

    Nice try though.. I know you're a true believer in Floyd

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    • MisanthropicNY
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      #272
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      Dam youre still an idiot , Oscar gained 2lbs did you miss that bit .

      So your admitting not what Floyd said but what of his fans said , as usual you chose the most damning , you would not have an agenda would you lol .

      I explained why IV instead of drinking water , speed of the system taking in it in , some athletes get nauseas trying to drink many liters of water , when you are are trained to level these guys are its not simplified as you think , the body is easily thrown out of balance , happens to animals all the time where many a racehorse in a huge race will run like a hack and then they find him badly dehydrated or badly depleted of potassium , might be a bacteria the reasons are endless , many things can go wrong in a F1 level environment .
      Wow, now you really are digging a hole for Floyd... Floyd was in a hurry to get the fluids in his system? But waited for a USADA-tester to show up and first take a urine test and then shoot up 750 ml of fluids which is about 25.4 oz of fluids...

      He could have just drank 25.4 oz of water lol...it's hardly much fluids to drink...Floyd drinks more than that probably during a boxing fight itself lol...

      Come on bro..you're really making Floyd look bad out here...totally makes no sense...

      IV is for urgency but let's wait for USADA-tester to get here before we do it?...

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      • Reloaded
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        #273
        Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
        Wow, so shoving a needle in your arm is much better than drinking 750 ml of fluids?

        Couldn't Floyd have had side effects from experimenting with saline and injections the night before the biggest fight of his career?

        Seems like something someone would risk doing only if they had prior experience with it...
        Yes 750 ml IV is fully taking in by your system , drinking 750 ml only 100ml or less will be assimilated into your system at cell level , there is no side effects from saline unless its way too much , a perfectly healty man could easily IV a bag of saline which is 1000ml with no harmful effect what so ever

        You really need to just research dehydration from a medical site , look at the volumes the time factor and just how it works .

        All you and the hating children are doing is just ranting about stuff they know nothing about .

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        • Lester Tutor
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          #274
          I find it funny that MisanthropicNY uses an Injection (needle) for Floyd in the avatar when he's being accused of an IV scandal, rather, the needle picture suits more Pacquiao of less than a 50mg of a Toradol (injection) shot that Top Rank gambled an hour before the fight since they didn't need a TUE. It's not a coincedence why Arum has paid writers to include that verbage in the reports, but it only comes back to bite him and for general readers that can't decipher out of context biased journalism or rather malicious propaganda. As Dr. Margaret Goodman states - the CEO of VADA, Toradol is an extremely strong anti-inflammatory drug and doesn't advise boxers to use it. She also stated that Team Pacquiao should'Ve notified the commission under any circumstances. She's the head of VADA. She could easily say that Anti-Doping agencies do the favor in reporting to the commission which she knows fully well the context of the May-Pac procedure.

          I have already uploaded the videos for this. People may still be emotional because Pac lost or the possibility of hope to discredit Floyd, but in the end, both fighters tested negative. A 4month old infant less than 5kg requires about 200-400ml per hour. A 15yr old at 50kg requires 2000ml. You guys do the math. Again, I advise people to read about IV infusions and what IV bags actually look like...lol.

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          • MisanthropicNY
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            #275
            Originally posted by Reloaded
            Yes 750 ml IV is fully taking in by your system , drinking 750 ml only 100ml or less will be assimilated into your system at cell level , there is no side effects from saline unless its way too much , a perfectly healty man could easily IV a bag of saline which is 1000ml with no harmful effect what so ever

            You really need to just research dehydration from a medical site , look at the volumes the time factor and just how it works .

            All you and the hating children are doing is just ranting about stuff they know nothing about .
            750 ml is such a small amount of fluid though..that's actually what makes it su****ious to me..the fact that it's such a small amount...

            Why would Floyd be dehydrated..can you explain that, Doc?

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            • Reloaded
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              #276
              Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
              Wow, now you really are digging a hole for Floyd... Floyd was in a hurry to get the fluids in his system? But waited for a USADA-tester to show up and first take a urine test and then shoot up 750 ml of fluids which is about 25.4 oz of fluids...

              He could have just drank 25.4 oz of water lol...it's hardly much fluids to drink...Floyd drinks more than that probably during a boxing fight itself lol...

              Come on bro..you're really making Floyd look bad out here...totally makes no sense...

              IV is for urgency but let's wait for USADA-tester to get here before we do it?...
              You dont know anything and making it up to suit yourself , you are just ranting a pile of horse sht .

              IV can be for urgency like in an emergency room at a hospital and it can be for convenience because it takes too long to get the hydration back up to where it should be , you know neither .

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                #277
                Originally posted by Spoon23
                1. Tue was granted by NSac 3 weeks after the fight. Which means during the time of administering of 750 ML of IVs, FLoyd was doing illegal stuff behind Nsac's back. Only after 3 weeks was it granted by Nsac. Red flag.

                If a Prohibited Substance is administered via IV infusion or injection a TUE
                application must be submitted for the Prohibited Substance regardless of
                whether the infusion is less than 50 mL or the setting/circumstances under
                which it is administered. In situations of medical emergency or clinical time
                constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable (ISTUE 2015 article 4.3).
                No it does not, because Mayweather was tested before/after the IV.

                failpost

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                • MisanthropicNY
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                  #278
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  You dont know anything and making it up to suit yourself , you are just ranting a pile of horse sht .

                  IV can be for urgency like in an emergency room at a hospital and it can be for convenience because it takes too long to get the hydration back up to where it should be , you know neither .
                  You make it seems as if drinking water is totally useless and we should all just use IVs...

                  Why even bother drinking 8 glasses of water a day, right?

                  We all just use an IV of 750 ml of fluids every day instead

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                  • MisanthropicNY
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                    #279
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    No it does not, because Mayweather was tested before/after the IV.

                    failpost
                    Wasn't Floyd only urine tested though? I mean you know the tests that Floyd said are pretty useless because you need to test the blood?

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                    • Reloaded
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                      #280
                      Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
                      750 ml is such a small amount of fluid though..that's actually what makes it su****ious to me..the fact that it's such a small amount...

                      Why would Floyd be dehydrated..can you explain that, Doc?
                      750 ml is not such a small amount neither is it extreme its about right for a 150lb man .

                      He could be dehydrated because he is a athlete trained to extreme levels , just like a Racehorse or Greyhound trained to extreme levels , they can dry out on you very easy because the mineral balance is easily effected .

                      Try this , for 10 days add a lot of salt to your food , more than you normal do , what will happen is you will retain more fluids at cell level , now at the end of loading the salt for 10 days just stop and have no salt over 5 days , what will happen is it will effect you like a diuretic and the cells will shed fluid affectively drying you out .

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