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  • aboutfkntime
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    #251
    Originally posted by Morevax
    To me Mayweather clearly over-trained for the fight and got dehydrated, thus the need for the IV. What was done is so common in WADA administered sports that I can't believe this is even news. I even read that Pacquioa's people were informed of the IV, Do you think that if a 100m runner was granted a TUE that his/her opponent would even know they had one until way after the 100m final.
    After reading that article, this issue is so above-board its not funny.

    People are fkn desperate to sling some mud at Mayweather.

    And this also answers the questions that I asked yesterday.....

    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    The USADA testers actually discovered/reported the IV use..... and Mayweather has been tested for years..... so why have they never reported IV marks previously?

    Why ?

    And, Mayweather declared the IV..... so if he has been using continually, why has this not been reported earlier?..... there would obviously be records, so this is the first/only time it ever happened.

    Could it be that the IV/official request was legitimate, which is why the TUE was granted, which is why the USADA testers noticed the IV mark, which is why the testers dutifully reported the IV use.

    It really does sound like silly rumor-mongering.
    Way to create a shhtstorm over nothing you tards

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    • SchoolTheseCats
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      #252
      25 pages of pacamaniacs with they 3rd world medical degrees prob carrying on with he was 150lbs 3 weeks before fight doe... As if cutting weight only way you can get dehydrated lol carry on

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      • soul_survivor
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        #253
        I actually read through some of these so called refutations...and in all honesty, they do not refute much. I ask anyone on this thread, pro or anti Floyd, to read Hauser's recent article, then his stuff from a few years back and then this. USADA don't refuse much, for example, they claim that Mayweather had applied for the use of IV, which was granted by USADA.

        Hauser doesn't say USADA didn't grant the exemption, he says the NSAC was not notified of this before the fight. It is also the NSAC which must not only approve any exemptions BUT also decide whether or not these things can be carried out in Mayweather's home. Again, the USADA says that it did occur in Mayweather's home...without NSAC approval or supervision.

        Not a great start from the agency is it?

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        • Bigg Rigg
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          #254
          Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
          25 pages of pacamaniacs with they 3rd world medical degrees prob carrying on with he was 150lbs 3 weeks before fight doe... As if cutting weight only way you can get dehydrated lol carry on
          I'm dying!! Floyd is funny money though imo.

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          • aboutfkntime
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            #255
            Hauser is a mud-raker, a Top Rank shill.....

            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            I actually read through some of these so called refutations...and in all honesty, they do not refute much. I ask anyone on this thread, pro or anti Floyd, to read Hauser's recent article, then his stuff from a few years back and then this. USADA don't refuse much, for example, they claim that Mayweather had applied for the use of IV, which was granted by USADA.

            Hauser doesn't say USADA didn't grant the exemption, he says the NSAC was not notified of this before the fight. It is also the NSAC which must not only approve any exemptions BUT also decide whether or not these things can be carried out in Mayweather's home. Again, the USADA says that it did occur in Mayweather's home...without NSAC approval or supervision.

            Not a great start from the agency is it?
            I think that you have a very limited/textbook viewpoint.

            The situation was unusual.

            But the real point is..... the issue was investigated by both of the bodies in question, and both USADA and NSAC agree that there was no wrongdoing.

            So long as they are consistant, there is nothing to see here.

            Also, Hauser got spanked.....

            Go read the USADA article, they addressed everything, including Hausers shoddy journalism and lack of accurate factual information.

            Hausers reply addressed two little issues - weakly, I might add - so he obviously got spanked on the rest of those issues.

            You question USADA and NSAC, but Hauser blew his credibility long ago.

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            • DoktorSleepless
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              #256
              The World Anti-Doping Agency International Standard for The****utic Use Exemption (which USADA claims it follow) states the following 4 conditions need to be met to be granted a TUE.

              4.0 Obtaining a TUE


              4.1 An Athlete may be granted a TUE if (and only if) he/she can show that each of the following conditions are met:

              a. The Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method in question is needed to treat an acute or chronic medical condition, such that the Athlete would experience a significant impairment to health if the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method were to be withheld.

              b. The The****utic Use of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method is highly unlikely to produce any additional enhancement of performance beyond what might be anticipated by a return to the Athlete***8217;s normal state of health following the treatment of the acute or chronic medical condition.

              c. There is no reasonable The****utic alternative to the Use of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method.

              d. The necessity for the Use of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method is not a consequence, wholly or in part, of the prior Use (without a TUE) of a substance or method which was prohibited at the time of
              Lets review how Mayweather met these conditions.

              a) Maywather claimed he rehydrated to 148lbs. Is being dehydrated 3 pounds under a his normal weight an acute and chronic condition? Nope. Would Mayweather "experience a significant impairment to health" without an IV to put 1.5lbs of saline in him? Nope.

              b) This part arguable. It could enhance his performance if it masks any other drugs. It may also enhance his performance if it makes it easier to hydrate. But for the sake of argument, lets say it doesn't enhance his performance.

              c) There's is a reasonable alternative to IV use. It's called drinking water.

              d) This condition is met. IV use isn't due to prior IV use.

              So at the very least 2 out of the 4 conditions weren't met to have a TUE granted. USADA has yet to explain why the TUE was granted and how any of these four conditions were met.
              Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 09-17-2015, 05:05 PM.

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              • Cinci Champ
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                #257
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                I actually read through some of these so called refutations...and in all honesty, they do not refute much. I ask anyone on this thread, pro or anti Floyd, to read Hauser's recent article, then his stuff from a few years back and then this. USADA don't refuse much, for example, they claim that Mayweather had applied for the use of IV, which was granted by USADA.

                Hauser doesn't say USADA didn't grant the exemption, he says the NSAC was not notified of this before the fight. It is also the NSAC which must not only approve any exemptions BUT also decide whether or not these things can be carried out in Mayweather's home. Again, the USADA says that it did occur in Mayweather's home...without NSAC approval or supervision.

                Not a great start from the agency is it?
                ya right hauser wrote it as tho they caught mayweather with the iv in his arm and thats the only reason they knew then they granted a tue to save him. that was the whole agenda instead the reality is way different and they tested him before and after to make sure he wasnt using it to dope

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                • SchoolTheseCats
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                  #258
                  Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
                  I'm dying!! Floyd is funny money though imo.
                  Lol he very well could be dirty, usada, nsac, wada code all prove that he wasn't and followed proper protocol to receive an IV that according to the very own conte is only about 1.5lbs and even he stated it was nothing illegal with what Floyd did but these guys trying to refute scientists arguments, change things around in rules leaving out other parts to fit they agenda and to make matters worse only nsb is still reporting on situation, usada article on yahoo main page that's it, these guys don't know when to give up

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                  • Fook That BOY
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                    #259
                    Can't wait for the truth to come out... Sayonara JR!

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                    • rao007
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                      #260
                      You guys are smokin' some good stuff. ...hauser just told you fools that USADA has the inability to inform other bodies like NSAC what the they are doing numerous times...also Mayweather still violated wada rules man...you can talk all the you want but 50ml for 6 hours is the deal...not 750ml...you masking something....

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