The Standard of Defensive ATGs

[Philantro]

However, there are many other unwritten rules for defensive minded fighters, if they want to become ATGs. Some of these rules are related to risks. Fighters who avoid all risks are never considered ATGs. For example, a defensive fighter who just collects enough points to win every round, but never attacks above that in fear of counterpunches will never become an ATG.

What the hell are you talking about? None of this makes any sense and is certainly untrue. You're just looking at one fighter and putting these absurd, nonsensical rules onto him and him alone, while ignoring others with similar traits who do either similar, or even less in most cases offensively.

No, these rules apply to everyone. Willie Pep, for example, knocked out every world champion challenger during 1946, 1947 and 1948; until he lost to Sandy Saddler. Willie Pep had similar kind of defense/offense combinations as Nicolino Locche had in the video above, during this period. You don't become an ATG without taking risks.


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[b00g13man]

Dumb thread.

[Real King Kong]

Paul Fujii was a champion who had all the belts at Light Welterweight in 1968. On December 12, 1968, he fought at home against the challenger, Nicolino Locche, who had great defensive skills. Take a look at this fight and study how Nicolino, even though he is showing great defensive skills, never stops attacking Fujii with devastating left hooks to the body and to the head.

Since Mayweather's offensive skills were rather average for an elite fighter, he should have used similar kind of defense/offense combinations as Nicolino did against top opposition if he had had the ambition to be considered amongst the best ATGs.



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So what's the difference between him pot shotting with hooks and mayweather doing it with right hands?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Floyd is a master defender.. Plus I have no doubt he would beat liocche

Liocche may be a more aggressive offensive fighter, but floyd is the better fighter in general

[Real King Kong]

Way to use a guy who's not atg to prove floyd isn't atg. Locches record is riddled with draws against bums and the guy barely fought outside argentina and lost when he did.