New Pound For Pound Rankings: King Chocolatito, Welcome Back Dre, Welcome Kell

[IronDanHamza]

I agree that Gonzalez isnt no.1 IDH, but who do you put up there?

Everytime I go to make a list I cant bring myself to put anyone in the top spot.

Is it ******ed of me to leave the top spot vacant?

Andre Ward needs to hurry up and fight someone worth a damn so I can bump him up to no,1

It's hard.

There's no stand out.

If Ward hadn't been ****ing around for the last 4 years he'd be the obvious heir to the throne.

[The Big Dunn]

Gonzalez wasn't on many lists a 18 months ago and now he is #1, that's a huge leap. How did all these guys jump Wlad?

Ward right back at #2 is probably a little high

I don't think GGG's body of work warrants a #4 ranking. every other person ranked has either fought in multiple divisions or at least has defeated a top tier opponent.

[mike1010011]

This list is a joke.
1. Kell brook shouldn't even be on the list.
2. Ward hasn't done anything since 2011,so there's no way in hell that win over a blown up paul Smith gets him the #2 spot.
3. Pacquiao loses a decision to mayweather,and suddenly gets sent to #8?
4. How the hell is Crawford ranked higher than Pacquiao?
5. Did wlad suddenly lose a fight that nobdoy heard of? Because that's the only way to explain him that low on the list.
6. Chocolate to has accomplished alot,and is a great fighter,but he shouldn't be at #1. Maybe if he rematched,and took Estrada's belts he could be up there,but for now it isn't right.

[Ray Corso]

Pound for pound simply means that if a fighters "talents" can be transfered into different weight classes how would his skills fare!

1. Roman Gonzalez
2. Andre Ward
3. Sergey Kovalev
4. Gennady Golovkin
5. Guillermo Rigondeaux
6. Wladmir Klitchko
7. Terrence Crawford
8. Manny Pacquiao
9. Shinsuke Yamanaka
10. Kell Brook

Ganzales fares very well because he's the number ONE complete boxer/fighter on this list!
Ward and Rigo are next both lacking on the offensive willingness to dominate.
Koval needs more time to get his boxing skills smoother to be able to transition from boxer to fighter.
GGG also needs to get his defense on par with his offense.
Crawford also needs to balance out between D & Off. But he's good!
Manny is a competitor through the years but his defense isn't good and to me he is NOT a p4p boxer!
Same with Wlad he doesn't maintain or show all around skills even against poor competition. He is a C- C+ talent. Being tall isn't a skill.
Brook needs to fight more than one opponent, he has skills.
Not familar with Yamanaka to be honest to comment on him.

p4p means being able to beat the best in all weight classes, nothing to do with winning in yours!
Ray

[IMDAZED]

Worst rankings I've seen from the Ring in eons.

[Luilun]

New Ring Rankings welcome the return of Andre SOG Ward:

1. Roman Gonzalez
2. Andre Ward
3. Sergey Kovalev
4. Gennady Golovkin
5. Guillermo Rigondeaux
6. Wladmir Klitchko
7. Terrence Crawford
8. Manny Pacquiao
9. Shinsuke Yamanaka
10. Kell Brook

The new era has begun.

Number 2 and 6 need to be switched

[Brickyardigan]

Why Gonzalez? Nobody heard of the guy before his HBO debut this year. Who has he beaten really?

Wlad has ruled his division for 10 years now. Wlad is #1 p4p and STILL undisputed.

They don't want an American or a Black at number 1 anymore. They know the number 1 spot is deservedly for Ward. Gonzalez when he debut on the top ten was put at number 2 in expense for knocking Ward off the list. That's pretty much bull****.. but hey we all know why they did it.

[Brickyardigan]

New Ring Rankings welcome the return of Andre SOG Ward:

1. Roman Gonzalez
2. Andre Ward
3. Sergey Kovalev
4. Gennady Golovkin
5. Guillermo Rigondeaux
6. Wladmir Klitchko
7. Terrence Crawford
8. Manny Pacquiao
9. Shinsuke Yamanaka
10. Kell Brook

The new era has begun.

Gennady Golovkin and Sergey Kovalev above Rigondeaux at number 3 and 4. Come on man.. It's obvious what they doing.

[Brickyardigan]

Look man GGG and Ward wont move up -- Imagine if they moved up three times and KO the lineal champion in those divisions ; thats what Chocolatito did and might do it again after he wipes out the flyweights.Wlad I respect however hypothetically speaking if there was a Super heavy weight division I don't think he would be able to use his tactics there to have any success.

Gonzalez ain't **** but a big fat **** draining himself to make weight and then blowing up to take advantage of the lower weaker weight classes. He got his ass whipped before by Juan Estrada.

[SplitSecond]

Do you guys just make a p4p list completely dependent on your opinions instead of some proof?

Ward hasn't done nothing in ages, not even sure he's the same fighter anymore, the Paul Smith performance was lethargic and sht, Prime Ward was more energetic, faster and on occasion mauled guys.

I think Wlad and Pacquiao in 1/2 seems fair. Lets not just make lists with "because I think he beats the rest", otherwise no one should complain if someone puts Kovalev or Golovkin at number 1, "because I think he beats the rest"