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  • Originally posted by hitking View Post
    Please don't encourage that ass clown. If for one minute you think GGG cares more about the WBC belt than he does the career high payday against Cotto or Canelo, you're a damn fool. That logic in itself is hypocritical. On one hand, GGG wants the glory of a belt that no one outside of his diehards give a **** ass about, moreso than the money from a Cotto or Canelo shot. On the other, the glory of a Ward win doesn't matter because ir won't generate enough money. Which one is it?
    You're right to think he wants the money. But Canelo is going to be a Middleweight eventually, technically is already. And if all the belts are in Gennady's possession he can't avoid him. No one at MW can. GGG will be the biggest paycheck in the division. Getting all the belts has been a tactical maneuver to avoid being avoided.

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    • Originally posted by NEETzsche View Post
      he will receive more glory from a wider audience by beating alvarez or cotto than by beating ward
      Debateable. But the post I was responding to spoke as if GGG wants the WBC belt more than a fight with the Cotto-Canelo winner. Which is horse****.

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      • Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
        *"we sold out madison square garden!"

        *hundreds of seats still available

        Keep on reaching, you have nothing lest

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        • Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
          It would be PPV because GGG name-sake not because of Ward who would be clinging onto the hype and entertainment Golovkin has provided.
          Yeah because he's a PPV king..

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          • Originally posted by hitking View Post
            Debateable. But the post I was responding to spoke as if GGG wants the WBC belt more than a fight with the Cotto-Canelo winner. Which is horse****.
            i was responding to your implication that he only wanted alvarez/cotto for money and not for glory. more people will tune in to golovkin-canelo/cotto than to golovkin-ward, more people will enjoy it, more people will remember it

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            • Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
              It's a shame because Ward seemed like one of the genuine guys one upon a time but then he obviously must have met some of the same team as Floyd and lost all the class he once had.
              It would always be a hard buy to sell Ward even harder to make people fans of his, its time he grew up he isn't chasing a fighter in the same weight division unlike Khan was but for some reason the people who discredited Khan for chasing Mayweather are the same ones who are sticking up for Ward for chasing a guy who isn't even at the same division
              You want to talk hypocritical, bias or idiotic answer that one then.
              Translation = if your a black fighter who wants to keep your class don't attempt to call out Euro fighters on their cowardice . Nice Post !

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              • Originally posted by NEETzsche View Post
                i was responding to your implication that he only wanted alvarez/cotto for money and not for glory. more people will tune in to golovkin-canelo/cotto than to golovkin-ward, more people will enjoy it, more people will remember it
                At the end of the day, GGG is still a relative nobody outside of the hardcore fight community. Cotto and Canelo have some crossover appeal. But, nothing close to a Floyd or Manny. So the vast majority of those interested in GGG-Cotto/Canelo and Ward-GGG are within the hardcore fight community. And I don't think there's too many non-GGG fans that would give him more credit for beating Cotto/Canelo than they wpuld Ward.

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                • Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                  Golovkin nuthuggers are acting just like Fl0mos right now. Bunch of hypocrites.
                  lol true.....

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                  • Originally posted by Barcham View Post
                    The Chavez Jr. was a PPV fight at the time. It would not be today. The Froch fight would be PPV in Europe as it would happen in the UK. It would have been huge.

                    Fighting Ward will not even be a draw on regular HBO. It may even do such low numbers as to hurt GGG's brand as a quality draw. That fight is an all around losing proposition no matter what the outcome. He could drop Ward in the first round and it will not matter. Ward has to build up his name and get a couple of titles at SMW before GGG should even consider fighting him. And only after GGG has completed his goal of middleweight unification.
                    You said:

                    GGG vs Ward would not even be a draw and would do low numbers on regular HBO.

                    Then you said:

                    Even if he dropped Ward in the first rd, it doesn't matter because the fight would still be an all around losing proposition for Golovkin and would hurt his brand as a draw.

                    So according to your logic GGG vs Ward isn't even good enough for regular TV and even if GGG knocked Ward out in the first rd, it would still hurt his brand?!

                    Knocking out Andre Ward in the first rd would hurt his brand...?!

                    You hear how ******ed you sound?!

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                    • Originally posted by Dick Wiggler UK View Post
                      Pretty sure Andre Ward has routinely sold very well in Oakland.

                      Golovkin's first fight at MSG flopped and he was forced to go to smaller venues and lower ticket prices.

                      People would be willing to pay more to see Golovkin against a person who will actually test him.
                      More of your typical misinformation. Golovkin vs an unknown Geale in late summer sold as many tickets as Wards mega fight vs Dawson in mid-September. And you mention they moved to a smaller venue, but you leave out they moved to a completely different market in LA. Last time Ward was in LA for major fight, it bombed. Just like his fights with Rodriguez, Bika, and Froch all bombed.


                      Date-------------Fight-------------Attendance------Venue
                      6/20/2015-----Ward/Smith---------9,016-------Oracle Arena, Oakland, CA
                      11/16/2013----Ward/Rodriguez----4,158-------CBB Arena, Ontario, CA
                      9/8/2012------Ward/Dawson-------8,919-------Oracle Arena, Oakland, CA
                      12/17/2011----Ward/Froch---------5,626-------Boardwalk Hall, AC, NJ
                      5/14/2011-----Ward/Abraham -----5,311-------StubHub Center, Carson, CA
                      11/27/2010----Ward/Bika----------4,100-------Oracle Arena, Oakland, CA
                      6/19/2010-----Ward/Green---------8,797-------Oracle Arena, Oakland, CA
                      11/21/2009----Ward/Kessler------10,277------Oracle Arena, Oakland, CA
                      5/16/2009-----Ward/Miranda-------7,818------Oracle Arena, Oakland, CA

                      10/17/2015----Golovkin/Lemieux---20,000+-----MSG, NY
                      5/16/2015------Golovkin/Monroe---12,372------Forum, Los Angelos, CA
                      10/18/2014----Golovkin/Rubio-------9,323----StubHub Center, Carson, CA
                      7/26/2014-----Golovkin/Geale-------8,572------MSG, NY
                      11/2/2013-----Golovkin/Stevens-----4,618------MSG Theater, NY

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