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  • #51
    Originally posted by ironmt View Post
    Not lame at all, the discussion was about size differences. There was a huge size discrepancy and Margarito entered the ring at 165lbs. I dont care who Margarito fought before he fought Pacquiao. The discussion was on size. Catch weights and former opponents Is Irrelevant to the discussion and since you like bringing up catch weights, I do believe Floyd has been Involved In that also.
    To make it as simple as I can, you can't compare Pacquaio's fight with Margarito to Mayweather fighting Golvkin at 160.


    Any attempt to do this is lame and invalid like I said the first time.

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    • #52
      Never took the risks that would put him in the league of the true greats. The true greats took risks and were successful. Floyd just don't take risks to be as good an all time great as he wants to be.

      A risk for Floyd is fighting a small guy like Pac coming off a ko to JMM. JMM a smaller guy than FLoyd fought Pac 4 times, so that Pac is floyds biggest ever win, shows Floyd has a way to go. God sent GGG down for Floyd but Floyd is ducking the challenge. Floyd was in quite a weak era and he didn't even fight everybody in that era also in their primes. And he never fougth outside his country.

      Top 20 would be great for Floyd. I doubt Floyd when he started out would ever believe he could be top 20.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by The tucker View Post
        Floyd fought Marquez and Mosley and they said he only fights old people.... He fights Ortiz who is 10 years younger than him and coming off the biggest win of his career. and everyone was claiming he was gonna duck Canelo and was scared so he beats him then they said he was too young and not ready lol.
        A blowned up fighter and cheated at weight in JMM. Mosley was old or was he 25? Who is ortiz?

        The point is PBF could of beaten a prime Cotto, could of beaten a prime monster in pac, could of beaten a force in margarito when he was a top welterweight. He could of beaten a canelo without being weightdrained but decides not to when he has amazing skills. Thats why he wont be a top all time great. One of the greatest yes not a top one. He went out on his last fight against someone like berto. He would of gotten more credit if it would of been thurman. When you are the #1 p4p u dont go out like that.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
          To make it as simple as I can, you can't compare Pacquaio's fight with Margarito to Mayweather fighting Golvkin at 160.


          Any attempt to do this is lame and invalid like I said the first time.
          For the record GGG Said he would fight him at 154. Floyd used to hold a belt in that division

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          • #55
            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            Never took the risks that would put him in the league of the true greats. The true greats took risks and were successful. Floyd just don't take risks to be as good an all time great as he wants to be.

            A risk for Floyd is fighting a small guy like Pac coming off a ko to JMM. JMM a smaller guy than FLoyd fought Pac 4 times, so that Pac is floyds biggest ever win, shows Floyd has a way to go. God sent GGG down for Floyd but Floyd is ducking the challenge. Floyd was in quite a weak era and he didn't even fight everybody in that era also in their primes. And he never fougth outside his country.

            Top 20 would be great for Floyd. I doubt Floyd when he started out would ever believe he could be top 20.
            Couldnt Agree with u more. For me floyd had the skills to become what he says but always chose the safest road.

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            • #56
              I'm sorry what?? He beat the man you claimed he was scared of easily, and in 5 divisions won the lineal title in 4.....

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              • #57
                Originally posted by periks19 View Post
                Couldnt Agree with u more. For me floyd had the skills to become what he says but always chose the safest road.
                Floyd can retire, he has had a lovely career.......most people would have loved to achieve what FLoyd has. Most people could call it a day if they achieved what Floyd has and got the money he has. But Floyd wants to be TBE, so he cant retire like most people could if they achieve what Floyd has.

                JUst one or two more. And they have to be risky fights, to show he means business, very aware he can possibly lose his zero.

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                • #58
                  I don't understand why Floyd stans say people discredit Floyd's wins and he has so many haters. 90% of people picked him to beat Pacquiao, Cotto, Canelo, Ortiz and he was the odds favorite in many of his fights. Funny how sensitive you guys are over a small percentage of people and label it as Floyd against the world

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                    To make it as simple as I can, you can't compare Pacquaio's fight with Margarito to Mayweather fighting Golvkin at 160.


                    Any attempt to do this is lame and invalid like I said the first time.
                    You can make It anyway you want. The simple fact of the matter Is Golovkin was willing to fight Mayweather at 154, a division that Floyd Is no stranger to. The Mayweathers claimed that Floyd would beat GGG yet Sr says that Floyd Isn't fighting him because he Is to big. The Mayweathers are full of contradictions just as many of his fans on this site. That Is what Is lame.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Snoopy91765 View Post
                      Mayweather solidified himself as the greatest when he schooled canelo. That was the cherry on top. People believed lies about pacauiao that's why "fight of the Centrury " happened. Everyone who knows boxing knew that pacquiao wasn't gonna do squat against Mayweather. Greatest of all time. He's light years ahead of everyonee.
                      AMEN to that my friend. add miguel cotto to that as he did go on to beat the so called king middleweight in sergio martinez and going back, ricky hatton who retired kostya tzyu and easily handled the modern great mexican juan manuel marquez and nobody hes fought and lost to has beaten him to conclusively.
                      good job floyd.

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