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  • Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
    You forgot about the part where I mentioned he's a professional athlete taking part in a combat sport the following day. It's sensible to assume that the degrees of dehydration would vary between a regular adult and a pro athlete.

    It would be impossible to expect someone who has lost 10% of their body weight to compete the next day, would it not?

    You just don't have the answers, and you're attempting to twist things to suit your agenda. There's a reason nobody else is talking about this apart from you losers.
    So what do you define as extreme dehydration for Floyd. He was walking around at about 151. He weighed in at 146.

    I'm using medical definitions here. You are trying to apply your own definitions.

    You just don't have the answers, and you're attempting to twist things to suit your agenda.

    And yes I agree if Floyd was suffering from extreme dehydration it would have been impossible for him to fight the next day. Hence, he was not suffering from extreme dehydration and as such violated WADA rules by taking an IV for re-hydration purposes.

    Thank you for proving my case.

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    • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
      No. I'm saying dehydration symptoms are pretty f#cking casual all things considered. And therefore with a darker color urine & a few symptoms I'm 100% you could get a TUE IV approved 100% legitly based on what qualifies as dehydration in particular when you are an older elite level athlete with a insane workout program by all accounts.
      So you think Floyd had an insane workout the day of the weigh in? You do not have an insane workout at that stage. The last week or so you are not doing anything insane anymore. So that is why to even get the IV when he did, did not make any sense.

      Floyd and Ellerbe also mentioned that giving blood and urine contributed to his dehydration. Well again, the last time Floyd had given blood was about 10 days before the weigh in. So again, its all make believe BS!!!

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      • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
        So what do you define as extreme dehydration for Floyd. He was walking around at about 151. He weighed in at 146.

        I'm using medical definitions here. You are trying to apply your own definitions.

        You just don't have the answers, and you're attempting to twist things to suit your agenda.

        And yes I agree if Floyd was suffering from extreme dehydration it would have been impossible for him to fight the next day. Hence, he was not suffering from extreme dehydration and as such violated WADA rules by taking an IV for re-hydration purposes.

        Thank you for proving my case.
        I've never claimed to have the answers you bellend. I'm not the one making the accusations. If you're going to make the accusations, you better have all the facts to back it up. You clearly don't, so it's obvious you've got an agenda.

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        • Look at how dehydrated Floyd was at the MayPac weigh ins! He's looking really gaunt with those hollow eyes, sunken cheeks and overall frail appearance. The fact that he was able to drag himself up the steps to the podium and onto the scales is a testament to his sheer will and determination. Now I understand why he needed those banned IV drips. /sarcasm

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            So you think Floyd had an insane workout the day of the weigh in? You do not have an insane workout at that stage. The last week or so you are not doing anything insane anymore. So that is why to even get the IV when he did, did not make any sense.

            Floyd and Ellerbe also mentioned that giving blood and urine contributed to his dehydration. Well again, the last time Floyd had given blood was about 10 days before the weigh in. So again, its all make believe BS!!!
            I think people don't understand a lot of **** about working out on the level elite athletes work out on. You don't gotta do a lot of looking into dehydration to see that its some easy **** to get & get diagnosed with on the elite athlete who works out like Mayweather does. If you do just a little looking into this you will see that there can even be a gradual lean towards dehydration over time. It doesn't have to be one "insane workout". Floyd runs alot. Dehydration is common in people who do a lot of endurance work. I think Floyd's workouts are endurance workouts compared to most boxers. I see guys training who'll spend 15mins messing around while going from one station to the next. Floyd workouts are extremely fluid & active straight thru.

            And mainly with this, believing dehydration or not doesn't change the fact IV's don't give you magic superpowers & if you are being tested before its usage, as Floyd was & keeps being ignored or denied by those without reading capabilities, its a extremely ineffective masking agent.

            *drops mic on this topic* cuz its yawn inducing at this point rehashing the same topics people don't seem capable of grasping (ie even if you think the dehydration situation is sketchy it doesn't change the facts we have about how things went down or make your worse assumptions true, if other things come to light in the future that changes how things could've went down fair enough, but you can't act like 1+1 = 7 just cuz its Mayweather & not come off like a guy not making huge jumps in assumptions with the known facts)

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            • Originally posted by IR0NFIST View Post


              Look at how dehydrated Floyd was at the MayPac weigh ins! He's looking really gaunt with those hollow eyes, sunken cheeks and overall frail appearance. The fact that he was able to drag himself up the steps to the podium and onto the scales is a testament to his sheer will and determination. Now I understand why he needed those banned IV drips. /sarcasm
              this photo will be ignored by the SALTY Floyd fans.

              Same as how they ignored my question was Floyd dehydrated @146 against Berto?

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              • Can anyone post that info from Victor Contenwhere gin states that the amount of fluids Floyd took was more for someone who had lost about 10 to 15 lbs ..

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                • Originally posted by imperial1 View Post
                  Can anyone post that info from Victor Contenwhere gin states that the amount of fluids Floyd took was more for someone who had lost about 10 to 15 lbs ..
                  i bet Floyd fans would accept Floyd been a big welterweight long time ago and that's the reason why he don't want to be weighed on fight night than accept Floyd was not dehydrated and that 750 ml was used to mask his PEDs.

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                  • Originally posted by Rath View Post
                    i bet Floyd fans would accept Floyd been a big welterweight long time ago and that's the reason why he don't want to be weighed on fight night than accept Floyd was not dehydrated and that 750 ml was used to mask his PEDs.
                    Of course they would they believe anything he says

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                    • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                      I think people don't understand a lot of **** about working out on the level elite athletes work out on. You don't gotta do a lot of looking into dehydration to see that its some easy **** to get & get diagnosed with on the elite athlete who works out like Mayweather does. If you do just a little looking into this you will see that there can even be a gradual lean towards dehydration over time. It doesn't have to be one "insane workout". Floyd runs alot. Dehydration is common in people who do a lot of endurance work. I think Floyd's workouts are endurance workouts compared to most boxers. I see guys training who'll spend 15mins messing around while going from one station to the next. Floyd workouts are extremely fluid & active straight thru.

                      And mainly with this, believing dehydration or not doesn't change the fact IV's don't give you magic superpowers & if you are being tested before its usage, as Floyd was & keeps being ignored or denied by those without reading capabilities, its a extremely ineffective masking agent.

                      *drops mic on this topic* cuz its yawn inducing at this point rehashing the same topics people don't seem capable of grasping (ie even if you think the dehydration situation is sketchy it doesn't change the facts we have about how things went down or make your worse assumptions true, if other things come to light in the future that changes how things could've went down fair enough, but you can't act like 1+1 = 7 just cuz its Mayweather & not come off like a guy not making huge jumps in assumptions with the known facts)
                      Look Panda, you are talking to someone that knows about workouts and endurance. There is a difference between requiring fluids because you had a good or intense workout and someone needing medical assistance that requires an IV.

                      Remember that this IV happened after the weigh in.

                      Can we agree to the following? Right?
                      - By then there are no longer any intense workouts.
                      - Even before then, workouts have tapered off substantially.
                      - Floyd had not given blood in 10 days.
                      - Giving urine does not dehydrate you.
                      - Floyd can and admitted to making 147 EASILY.
                      - Floyd is a very experienced gym rat.


                      So taking all of the above into account, then there would be no reason to get an IV after the weigh in. NONE!

                      Ask yourself this. Why get an IV then and not when the above points that I listed above actually did occur?

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