Who was the most impressive against Andre Berto?

[daggum]

Surely it depends what you mean by impressive. If you take your bias away, which will be very hard for you I know, then the most impressive, dominant boxing performance was clearly Floyd's.

You can't even argue it. He basically dominated every single minute of every single round. No one else has done that. Statistically and factually, that is the most impressive performance. Bret wasn't injured like he was against Karass. It wasn't a very close fight and Floyd wasn't knocked down twice like Ortiz and it wasn't a war of attrition like Guerrero. He won the fight easier, clearer and in a significantly more dominant fashion that any other opponent.

If you'd said which was the best win in terms of timing and excitement, then you could argue other people, like Ortiz when Berto was unbeaten, or Karass for stopping Berto.

However, in each of those, which you'd never take into account because they're not Floyd and you just want people to not choose Floyd, the Ortiz fight was very close and an absolute war with both getting knocked down, while the Karass fight was Berto winning easily until he was badly injured and struggled to win with the injury. That's not as impressive in a purely boxing related performance.

However, all you are wanting is for people to not say Floyd so you can feel good. Why don't you just be honest and come out and say 'I hate Floyd. Who agrees that his performance was **** and other people beating Berto was better to watch because I hate the black man Floyd Mayweather?' Why go through this dishonest, roundabout thing when you are simply looking for an indirect, backward way for people to knock Floyd so it can make you feel better about whatever weird agenda you have?

It seems like a lot of effort for something that is 1) wrong, because if you are wanting to know which opponent had the most clear, unquestionable win against Berto it's without any doubt Floyd...but that's not what you want to see written so 2) why don't you just write an honest thread about your hate and ask people to agree with your hate and to join in a big Floyd hate orgy? It's more honest at least.

karass was winning that fight handily from the beginning. stop trying to revise history. berto won maybe 3 rounds in the fight and most after he said he injured his shoulder so not sure what you are talking about.

also clinching isn't pure boxing. it's pure cheating but you've been conditioned to accept it as good boxing since it's being allowed more and more. hopefully that era is coming to an end and we won't have people endorsing cheating anymore.

[The Hammer]

this is that ETHER...the **** that make your soul burn slow!!!...good post!!

So you agree if anybody doesn't lick Floyd's ass, he's racist, right? I think the opposite is true - those who do lick his ass are.

Floyd RAN out the clock in the 12th round against a shot Berto. Put race aside for a minute, and compare that to Soto Karass's 12th round. Ortiz, Guerrero and Soto Karass didn't need to HOLD repeatedly throughout their fights with a better version of Berto.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

really? you find it more impressive to clinch an overmatched opponent nonstop? sorry that's not boxing dude and don't pretend like it is. now that floyd is gone its time to take back real boxing because fans have been conditioned to accept cheating as "boxing" now that floyd is gone, ward is basically gone, and wlad will be gone soon so things are looking up. once real boxing is established and people realize what they had been missing the cheating tactics won't be tolerated or seen as "impressive"

I'm yet to see a 38 year old atg champion who never tied his opponent up, and pay attention to atg champion. If u can't tie up a younger faster stronger opponent at the age of 38 u should just retire.

[HanzGruber]

Why would anyone vote Karass? Berto fought with one arm (a real injury not like pacs) and still almost beat him lol

[daggum]

really really

what do you mean really? yes. cheating isn't impressive to me. why is it impressive to you? and because lots of people do it is not an acceptable answer.

[daggum]

I'm yet to see a 38 year old atg champion who never tied his opponent up, and pay attention to atg champion. If u can't tie up a younger faster stronger opponent at the age of 38 u should just retire.

people give old fighters a pass and let them cheat and i don't know why. some young fighters like ward cheat as well and they still give them a pass. these "fans" are full of crap

[Phenom]

Lol thread backfired

[Larry the boss]

Floyd,got hit the least and landed the most

[Mr. Philadel]

So you agree if anybody doesn't lick Floyd's ass, he's racist, right? I think the opposite is true - those who do lick his ass are.

Floyd RAN out the clock in the 12th round against a shot Berto. Put race aside for a minute, and compare that to Soto Karass's 12th round. Ortiz, Guerrero and Soto Karass didn't need to HOLD repeatedly throughout their fights with a better version of Berto.

the irony here is unreal!!...you're telling someone to put race aside and almost ALL of your comments are race driven agenda bs...ninja please!! lol

[El Malo.]

Impressive I well go with Floyd he dominated him easily. More entertaining fight was against Ortiz.























Ps. . . . . . . I bet Floyds pecker is still bigger than yours Freedom