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  • sicko
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    #21
    Open up the damn Bidding! HBO shouldn't automatically get this fight because of a ***ing contract. If they want the fight that bad then pull out the checkbook and win the ***ing Bid. This letting Duva win the bid on her on then you show up with your announcers and camera that is BS

    I guess they would rather him fight Bums so they can continue to play him less than $1 Million.

    That HBO Contract is really not looking like a good idea right now to be honest!

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    • Scipio2009
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      #22
      Originally posted by mike1010011
      There's only one way for the fight to happen,and that's if Stevenson accepts the 50-50 offer and fights kovalev on hbo. Kovalev has the exclusive contract with hbo,so there's no point in talking about purse bids,since he wouldn't be able to fight on pbc or showtime. Pretty simple logic.
      Stevenson has no obligation to HBO, especially knowing that his own partners (Showtime, Haymon/PBC) can match whatever money HBO is offering.

      If Kovalev, Team Kovalev, and Kovalev's fans want to hide behind "it has to only be on HBO", come out in the open about it, admit all the other big talk was bull****, and stand by what it really is.

      Stevenson isn't likely to fight again (if the pattern holds steady) till February 2016. In the meantime, Fonfara-Cleverly happens in October (winner fights Braehmer for the wba belt Jan/Feb 2016), Beterbiev/Barrera and Chilemba/Alvarez are likely due for their own doubleheader come Nov (I think Beterbiev and Alvarez win the fights), and Kovalev is left with a decision to make.

      None of the top fighters at 175 are going to owe anything to HBO, and Kovalev would've already dumped one belt to keep to Team Kovalev's "only on HBO" rule.

      have fun defending that.

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      • Scipio2009
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        #23
        Originally posted by MDPopescu
        ... or they could make it a joint Showtime-HBO on PPV... In Canada it's PPV anyway...

        But Haymon wants to force everybody into his franchize -- he doesn't care for belts or titles or people, he wants every fight under the "PBC" label...
        ... if the fight is on Showtime, it's not a PBC fight... so, not sure what point you're making.

        Mayweather's fights, Chavez Jr's fights, Stevenson's fights on Showtime, Wilder's fights on Showtime, the international broadcasts that Showtime picks up, the ShoBox cards, et al look near nothing like the show presentation for PBC.

        There's not enough money in it for HBO and Showtime to share the take on the fight, so the only logical thing to do is is for the fight to go to an open bid; network that finds the most value in the fight, gets the fight.

        not that complicated

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        • tiliheels
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          #24
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          ... or they could make it a joint Showtime-HBO on PPV... In Canada it's PPV anyway...

          But Haymon wants to force everybody into his franchize -- he doesn't care for belts or titles or people, he wants every fight under the "PBC" label...
          i see nothing wrong with haveing PBC on hbo...making one boxing league is best look at mma they are thriving under one huge league..and then they have sub groups smaller than them...hbo is just not going to put anythong on..its selfish nbc doesnt care if its is pbc....#PBConHBO

          obviously he'll put cards that can do 1.5 views on there..there would never be competition the night of the fights..HE'S WILLING TO WORK WITH ALL PROMOTERS

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          • Scipio2009
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            #25
            Originally posted by Weebler I
            He wasn't, HBO had rights to his next fight.

            All this is ****** anyway, the writing is on the wall. Stevenson is going to fight nobodies until the WBC forces him to fight his mandatory, whether it be Alvarez or Chilemba (likely Chilemba) and I don't think he beats either.
            his next fight was the Mohammedi mandatory defense, which was already in the cue; Team Kovalev was only able to talk themselves into the mandatory position because they explained that the obligations were due to be settled.

            you can keep lying if you want, the objective evidence will stand against you every time.

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              #26
              this nobody had his chance and blew it

              back of the line

              50/50 is silly at this point, stevenson hasn't done ****

              maybe the other chicken under the same management beterbiev might get thrown a pity offer

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              • Kagami Taiga
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                #27
                Originally posted by Weebler I
                He wasn't, HBO had rights to his next fight.

                All this is ****** anyway, the writing is on the wall. Stevenson is going to fight nobodies until the WBC forces him to fight his mandatory, whether it be Alvarez or Chilemba (likely Chilemba) and I don't think he beats either.
                He beats both. Let's not go full ****** here.

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                • Scipio2009
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                  Does Adonis really believe he is preparing himself to fight the Krusher by fighting these 5hit fights??
                  Kovalev is 6' with just under a 73" reach.

                  Karpency: 5'11.5"/73"
                  Bika: 5'11.5"/71"
                  Suhkotsky: 5'11.5"/75"
                  Fonfara: 6'2.5"/76" {outlier}

                  All Stevenson needs to worry about is Adonis Stevenson; keep fit, keep his boxing skills sharp (head movement, footwork, gauging range, etc), and keep his body clean.

                  He may not have planned it this way, but his last three fights have been against guys who, physically, parallel Kovalev pretty well.

                  Everyone knows, more or less, the parameters of a Kovalev-Stevenson fight; Stevenson is going to work every angle to try and land that monster left hand, and if Kovalev can avoid getting nailed with that left hand, he probably wins the fight (I don't think that Stevenson could keep himself busy enough to win a decision).

                  Kovalev has been dropped before, so Stevenson's power is heavy enough to wreck him; whom he fits in the interim makes no difference, when the plan is to simply land that left on a body that's about 6' tall.

                  Now, how Kovalev deals with a herky, jerky power-punching southpaw who's longer than him by five inches, is another story.

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                  • danktrees
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Raonic
                    Kovalev has already said he wants it so he's clearly not ducking the fight. Just business won't allow it to happen.

                    IIRC, they were supposed to fight but Adonis knowingly chose to sign with Haymon despite the fact he knew doing so would eliminate the possibility of a fight.
                    but kovalev signed an extension with hbo knowing that would eliminate the fight with stevenson in the future. and judging by the duva quote in this article it already has...or does this logic only go one way?

                    also, im pretty sure when stevenson signed on to pbc, he was trying to get the fight with hopkins. everything looked like it was lined up and it somehow fell apart. cant blame him for trying to get hopkins instead of kovalev at that point, that would be a much bigger name on the resume.
                    Last edited by danktrees; 09-12-2015, 02:18 AM.

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                    • Weebler I
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      his next fight was the Mohammedi mandatory defense, which was already in the cue; Team Kovalev was only able to talk themselves into the mandatory position because they explained that the obligations were due to be settled.

                      you can keep lying if you want, the objective evidence will stand against you every time.
                      Main Events:...........

                      As you are aware, Sergey’s deal with HBO mirrored the one that was offered to Stevenson, last year. Therefore, you are also aware that at the end of that deal, HBO possessed a matching right that was triggered when you arranged for a purse bid to be called prior to the consummation of Sergey’s IBF mandatory. Had you waited for the natural course of events to unfold , we might be having a very different discussion.

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