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  • Listening to Conte on some radio show right now and If I've got this right(quality is terrible) he's saying Floyd took 1 and 1/2 lb's, which is nothing if you're supposedly dehydrated, most guys that need it have lost 15-20lbs and would require much more fluid.

    So he wasn't rehydrating. And the TUE(which is only for legitimate medical reasons), and esspecially the retroactive TUE(which is only for "exceptional" circumstances) is not to be allowed just because someone feels a little thirsty.

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    • Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
      Thats what people are willfully glossing over.

      They are like LOOK LOOK IT SAYS YOU CAN GET A TUE!!! SEE HE DID NOTHING WRONG!!!! SEEEEE.

      Then they ignore the part that follows where it says you can only get a TUE if it is administered as part of surgery, emergency medical care, or inpatient care...

      They treat it like, all you have to do is file some paperwork, and you can do it.

      No... its prohibited under all circumstances, except those involving medical treatment for the athletes safety.

      He should not have been granted the TUE.
      Yup it's clear as day. It's pretty much common sense. This dumb schmucks just trying to weezle their way out of it, but they can't. Red Flags everywhere.

      It's game over for Floyd.

      the cloud of doubt is in every boxing fans. the damage has been done.

      When they talk about Floyd's career, they will always bring out the IV gate. Tainted thy name is Floyd.

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      • Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
        Listening to Conte on some radio show right now and If I've got this right(quality is terrible) he's saying Floyd took 1 and 1/2 lb's, which is nothing if you're supposedly dehydrated, most guys that need it have lost 15-20lbs and would require much more fluid.

        So he wasn't rehydrating. And the TUE(which is only for legitimate medical reasons), and esspecially the retroactive TUE(which is only for "exceptional" circumstances) is not to be allowed just because someone feels a little thirsty.
        Nice find. It's like why don't you just drink gatorade if it's just 1 1/2 lbs is all you need. Drink 20 bottles of gatorade that will even be more than 750 ml of hydration.

        Obviously Floyd did it for something else.

        Red flags everywhere..

        Game over Floyd

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        • Originally posted by doom_specialist View Post
          Floyd broke no rules. He notified USADA of his intentions, was granted a retroactive TUE, and WADA for nearly 3 months hasn't opposed the TUE, and the NSAC isn't opposing it either. Looking pretty "over" from here indeed.
          USADA had no authority to give Floyd a TUE!

          And USADA only knew about the IV's when they came for their surprise test and HAD to report it this is the only reason it came to light !

          And they never opposed TUE's because they have granted them For specials exceptions Floyd never had the permission form the NSAC for that exemption! He used USADA the co. he pays directly !

          If you think it's going away just wait and see ..
          Last edited by imperial1; 09-12-2015, 07:57 PM.

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          • Originally posted by doom_specialist View Post
            *Sigh* We've already been over this.

            https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws....ons_4.0_en.pdf

            "If a non-prohibited substance is infused or injected without a concurrent hospital
            admission, surgical procedure or clinical investigation; a TUE must be submitted
            for this Prohibited Method if more than 50 mL of fluid per a 6-hour period is
            infused or injected.

            If a Prohibited Substance is administered via IV infusion or injection a TUE
            application must be submitted for the Prohibited Substance regardless of
            whether the infusion is less than 50 mL or the setting/circumstances under
            which it is administered. In situations of medical emergency or clinical time
            constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable (ISTUE 2015 article 4.3)."

            From WADA's (the people who's code USADA has to follow as you've so kindly pointed out) International Standard for TUE:

            4.4.5 If an Anti-Doping Organization chooses to collect a Sample from a
            Person who is not an International-Level or National-Level Athlete, and that
            Person is Using a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method for the****utic
            reasons, the Anti-Doping Organization may permit him or her to apply for a
            retroactive TUE.

            I seriously can't do this anymore. All of the rules are there in plain sight, and you're trying to make them something that they are not. I'm not trying to kid anyone. I'm just posting rules that make it quite obvious that Mayweather has done nothing wrong.

            Having more than 50 mL per 6 hours injected is prohibited, and requires a TUE. In the event that time will not allow proper application filing and consideration of said application, a retroactive TUE is permissible as per WADA rules.

            The saddest thing is that you're mad that Floyd broke an NSAC rule by having the IV at home (a rule that I haven't even found to exist), but you're attacking USADA for it. Be blind if you like. I'm outta here.
            Lol. It's pointless arguing with cats that have an agenda. I can't imagine living life so blinded with hate that you can't apply basic logic and reason.

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            • Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
              Lol. It's pointless arguing with cats that have an agenda. I can't imagine living life so blinded with hate that you can't apply basic logic and reason.
              Bet you didn't even read that, ****** flo mo. Here is the salient bit:

              "In situations of medical emergency or clinical time constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable"

              Dark urine is not it, a$$wipe, do you really need this explained? If you stop crying and accept your idol is a lowly cheat like the rest of the world knows now, maybe some reason kicks in.

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              • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                Bet you didn't even read that, ****** flo mo. Here is the salient bit:

                "In situations of medical emergency or clinical time constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable"

                Dark urine is not it, a$$wipe, do you really need this explained? If you stop crying and accept your idol is a lowly cheat like the rest of the world knows now, maybe some reason kicks in.
                Loooooooooooooool. No need to QQ. They obviously felt the situation qualified for one for whatever reason, hence it being granted. No amount of your tears will change that.

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                • Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
                  Loooooooooooooool. No need to QQ. They obviously felt the situation qualified for one for whatever reason, hence it being granted. No amount of your tears will change that.
                  Yeah shocking that shady USADA would break their own protocol in favor of the guy that hired them under a private contract. And that some dip**** flo mos would gloat about. Enjoy Floyd's new rep as a PED cheat.

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                  • Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
                    Loooooooooooooool. No need to QQ. They obviously felt the situation qualified for one for whatever reason, hence it being granted. No amount of your tears will change that.
                    In reality where most of us live in, there is not much black and white in this world. You need to use common sense and discern judgment with the facts presented to you.

                    What is clear is a cloud of doubt has come down to the eyes of public opinion. Floyd may get away with it as you said, but the seed of doubt already has been planted and to most have found Floyd guilty.

                    Like OJ Simpson who wasn't found guilty. It doesn't mean he didn't murder his wife. The amount of evidence that is glaringly obvious points out he really did. OJ was able to slither his way out of the system from being convicted, but what he can't get way out of is what people have branded him a murderer. And that my friend is even worse than any defeat in an athlete career.

                    A stigma of a cheat will be on top of Floyd's till the days he walks the earth. It's over buddy. Your boy is a certified fraud. All you need is a critical mind to know what's up.
                    Last edited by Spoon23; 09-12-2015, 09:36 PM.

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                    • Pac is right.

                      The Medication Team has taken too far.
                      From top to bottom they have broken the rules and cheated.

                      A federal investigation is needed here. People bet life savings on fights.

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