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Max Kellerman on ESPN on Mayweather ABNORMALLY LOW T/E Ratio plus USADA vs. VADA

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  • Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
    Your lack of basic education is really quite funny.

    First you confuse 0.8% of the population naturally having T/E ratios higher than 6/1 with most of the population having 0.8/1 T/E ratio... which they dont...

    Then you start in with floyds is 0.8% which it also wasn't. The T/E Metric is expressed as a fraction, not a percent, and even if it was, your decimal point would be two places off.

    But now you are trying to argue that you, the one that can't understand that information he quoted contradicts his argument, have read medical studies that say 0.8/1 is a normal T/E Ratio.

    When... we have clearly established that you can read about as well as Floyd. Floyd is that you?

    Its sad and embarrassing he is going to great length to defend Floyd and he can't even understand what he is posting.

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    • Originally posted by B.U.R.N.E.R View Post
      No one cares about this.

      Again its a non issue.

      Have fun tomorrow
      You mean you and the Floyd fans don't care.

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      • Originally posted by Calabis View Post
        Unless I'm reading thiswrong, does that not say:
        You are reading it wrong. The study says that abnormally high T/E ratios occur in about 0.8% of the male population not taking steroids. The study says that 1/1 is the normal ratio.

        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9216475

        Here is hint 0.8% does not equal 0.8. 0.8% = .008 and 0.8 = 80% this is basic math.

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        • Originally posted by Calabis View Post
          Its sad and embarrassing he is going to great length to defend Floyd and he can't even understand what he is posting.
          Come on 0.8% and 0.8 are the same thing right??? Right??? I mean its not like they are 100 times off.

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          • Originally posted by DannyNL View Post
            Floyd's advanced age (your testosterone gradually starts to lower once you hit 30 or so) and his intense cardio training could explain the low reading.
            Floyds testosterone was not low. It was on the very high end of normal and could even be considered above normal for someone his age. Of course if your testosterone is above normal its very easy to get it down. Simply take about a 500ml IV just before you give blood. That should drop you back into the normal range. Armstrong did this for years.

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            • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
              You are reading it wrong. The study says that abnormally high T/E ratios occur in about 0.8% of the male population not taking steroids. The study says that 1/1 is the normal ratio.

              http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9216475

              Here is hint 0.8% does not equal 0.8. 0.8% = .008 and 0.8 = 80% this is basic math.
              I got ya my fault

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              • Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
                no it doesn't. lance armstrong did it all the time. i suggest researching into lance armstrong doping. he used saline injections just like floyd to cheat the blood tests.

                here how it's done. testing agencies always calls maybe 20mins to let someone know they are coming to test (this is normal). in that 20 min floyd gets hooked up to iv and is flushed easily. thats why iv therapy is banned because it's so quick.

                this is what lance armstrong did and what floyd is doing. floyd got caught and usada cover it all up.
                Close but not quite. The IV doesn't flush the steroid. It thins the blood. A testosterone test checks for 2 things. Density of free testosterone and Testosterone to epitestosterone.

                To get your total free testosterone down you take a large IV to thin the blood since the test is a density (ng/ml) test the more you thin the blood with saline the more you lower the density of the testosterone in your blood. A quick IV administered right before a test will thin the blood enough to get a high testosterone density back into the normal range if its abnormally high due to taking synthetic testosterone. This is what Armstrong did amongst other tricks.
                Last edited by GTTofAK; 09-11-2015, 06:34 PM.

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                • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
                  Close but not quite. The IV doesn't flush the steroid. It thins the blood. A testosterone test checks for 2 things. Total free testosterone and Testosterone to epitestosterone.

                  To get your total free testosterone down you take a large IV to thin the blood since the test is a density (ng/ml) test the more you thin the blood wither saline the more you lower the density of the testosterone on your blood. A quick IV administered right before a test will thin the blood enough to get a high testosterone density back into the normal range if its abnormally high due to taking synthetic testosterone.
                  Hhaaha these gimps still trying to clutch at straws? Their idol is a bag of filth, always has been. If it wasn't for Josie Harris' glass jaw he wouldn't have a KO in a decade, and that's with roids.

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                  • Originally posted by B.U.R.N.E.R View Post
                    No one cares about this.

                    Again its a non issue.

                    Have fun tomorrow
                    Flowmos in denial left and right..

                    There still in shock. When the shock is over the realization will follow hehehe

                    Just so you know the whole boxing nation cares buddy

                    Your boy Floyd is burning in hot coal. Burn baby burrrrrrrrrrrn hahaha

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                    • Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
                      Hhaaha these gimps still trying to clutch at straws? Their idol is a bag of filth, always has been. If it wasn't for Josie Harris' glass jaw he wouldn't have a KO in a decade, and that's with roids.
                      Let's just hope Hauser has all his facts straight, because if not it won't be Floyd fans that are embarrassed, apparently he seems to be the only guy with this info

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