Max Kellerman on ESPN on Mayweather ABNORMALLY LOW T/E Ratio plus USADA vs. VADA

[joesaiditstrue]

This is a non issue a bunch of fake outrage from all you casual boxing fans.

Pathetic.

WAR MAYWEATHER!!

no an athlete with the physique that floyd has doesn't have a low TE ratio unless there's epitestosterone injections being taken to get the ratio back to normal

[Divine Hammer]

Lol the higher the level the more likely PEDs are used..Belfort just got called out for a 1.7 vs Weidman who had a 0.92

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-187-weigh-ins

Because testosterone cannot be converted to epitestosterone, an elevated ratio suggests doping; moreover, exogenous testosterone lowers the body's production of epitestosterone, further increasing the T/E ratio. In 1982, the IOC Medical Commission set a T/E ratio of 6/1 as the cut-off value for a positive test; WADA recently lowered the threshold to 4/1. The prevalence of urinary T/E ratio greater than 6/1 in healthy, non-steroid users is less than 0.8 percent. However, there are documented cases of non-doping athletes with T/E ratios greater than 6/1; as a result, additional testing is required to determine the etiology of the elevated ratio.

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news....terone_testing


Oh look Floyd is at 0.8 percent

The overall incidence of urinary T/E ***8805;6 in the general population of healthy males not abusing steroids is <0.8%, as evaluated by Catlin and Hatton (5) and confirmed by Dehennin (4).

http://www.clinchem.org/content/43/5/731.full

you completely misread the information you quoted hahahahahahahahaha

In 1982, the IOC Medical Commission set a T/E ratio of 6/1 as the cut-off value for a positive test; WADA recently lowered the threshold to 4/1. The prevalence of urinary T/E ratio greater than 6/1 in healthy, non-steroid users is less than 0.8 percent. However, there are documented cases of non-doping athletes with T/E ratios greater than 6/1;

what's being said in this statement that you quoted is that the prevalence of urinary t/e ratio higher than 6/1 in non dopers is less than 0.8%. meaning it's very highly unlikely that anyone naturally has t/e higher than 6/1. but there are some cases of athletes who don't dope having t/e ratios higher than 6/1. but again it's rare (0.8%).

the normal typical t/e ratio for a non steroid using person is 1/1. if it's lower like floyd's then that is very suspect which then the samples would need CIR testing. floyd was masking his steroid abuse by illegally injecting epitestosterone.

[-PBP-]

This tag tho!!!

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[hectari]

Lol the higher the level the more likely PEDs are used..Belfort just got called out for a 1.7 vs Weidman who had a 0.92

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-187-weigh-ins

Because testosterone cannot be converted to epitestosterone, an elevated ratio suggests doping; moreover, exogenous testosterone lowers the body's production of epitestosterone, further increasing the T/E ratio. In 1982, the IOC Medical Commission set a T/E ratio of 6/1 as the cut-off value for a positive test; WADA recently lowered the threshold to 4/1. The prevalence of urinary T/E ratio greater than 6/1 in healthy, non-steroid users is less than 0.8 percent. However, there are documented cases of non-doping athletes with T/E ratios greater than 6/1; as a result, additional testing is required to determine the etiology of the elevated ratio.

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news....terone_testing


Oh look Floyd is at 0.8 percent

The overall incidence of urinary T/E ***8805;6 in the general population of healthy males not abusing steroids is <0.8%, as evaluated by Catlin and Hatton (5) and confirmed by Dehennin (4).

http://www.clinchem.org/content/43/5/731.full

Higher than normal test levels, and super low levels.

The UFC fighters who have used TRT and either got caught cheating all had super low test levels at one point, what happens is when you use steroids or hormones it sends your natural order out of wack and your test drops and your estrogen rises.

[ADP02]

Well the weigh in is today, so he's probably a bit dehydrated if you catch my drift.

With all we know now, Showtime should show what Floyd does after the weigh in to alleviate all that dehydration problems, if you catch my drift. Casuals and non alike want to learn from the pros.

[ADP02]

This is a non issue a bunch of fake outrage from all you casual boxing fans.

Pathetic.

WAR MAYWEATHER!!

Says a Floyd fan.

The rest of us know better and see thru your BS.

Floyd and those related to the story such as USADA are going to have a rough time of it ........

[Calabis]

Higher than normal test levels, and super low levels.

The UFC fighters who have used TRT and either got caught cheating all had super low test levels at one point, what happens is when you use steroids or hormones it sends your natural order out of wack and your test drops and your estrogen rises.

Yes super low....look at Jon Jones Jones samples showed ratios of 0.29:1, 0.35:1 and 0.19:1...Floyd is nowhere near those levels.

[Calabis]

you completely misread the information you quoted hahahahahahahahaha



what's being said in this statement that you quoted is that the prevalence of urinary t/e ratio higher than 6/1 in non dopers is less than 0.8%. meaning it's very highly unlikely that anyone naturally has t/e higher than 6/1. but there are some cases of athletes who don't dope having t/e ratios higher than 6/1. but again it's rare (0.8%).

the normal typical t/e ratio for a non steroid using person is 1/1. if it's lower like floyd's then that is very suspect which then the samples would need CIR testing. floyd was masking his steroid abuse by illegally injecting epitestosterone.

in the general population of healthy males not abusing steroids is <0.8%

[Divine Hammer]

in the general population of healthy males not abusing steroids is <0.8%

u didn't read the info u quoted properly.

normal t/e ratio for black people is 1.3/1.

the chance of someone naturally having a ratio higher than 6/1 is less than 0.8% (meaning they're doping). which is what is being explained in the info u quoted. so what does that have to do with floyd's 0.69/1 and 0.8/1 t/e ratios?????

floyd's abnormally low t/e ratio shows that he most likely was injecting epitestosterone to level out his t/e to make it look normal (1.3/1 for black people). but doing this is very tricky because u can end up having a lower t/e. hence floyd's 0.69/1 and 0.8/1. in this instance when u have those results u would do CIR testing, but USADA didn't bother because they claim CIR is "too expensive".

this all reeks of doping and corruption.

[hectari]

Yes super low....look at Jon Jones Jones samples showed ratios of 0.29:1, 0.35:1 and 0.19:1...Floyd is nowhere near those levels.

You should hit up Victor Conte on twitter I posted his article on Jon Jones he also mentioned Floyds strangely low test levels.

He will give you a breakdown about low levels, you have to take into account Race as well. White male, asian male, black male, black men in general have higher test levels than other males.

Floyds muscular body would be very difficult to gain or maintain with that lower level of testosterone.

Mayweather was rumored to have failed drug tests for three consecutive fights but was granted retroactive TUEs by USADA.

– Mayweather’s people agreed to settle a defamation suit with Pacquiao quickly — and for more money than expected — as soon as Pacquiao’s side began demanding documents regarding Mayweather’s drug tests through USADA and the NSAC.

– Mayweather had abnormally low T/E (testosterone) ratios prior to the Robert Guerrero and Victor Ortiz fights. Low T/E ratios could indicate tampering/efforts to lower your ratio to cover up testosterone use.

– USADA regularly does not submit information to the Nevada State Athletic Commission. For instance, the NSAC would not allow Pacquiao to receive a Toradol pain-killing injection prior to their May fight, but Floyd was granted a retroactive TUE that was applied for and granted two weeks after the fight.

– USADA saw Mayweather using an illegal IV a day before his fight with Pacquiao but did not notify the athletic commission about it until weeks after the fight. The IV could be used to dilute the blood and cover up PED use.

As we have learned many times in the past, the more guilty the party, the more vigorous the defense. Why has Mayweather been so outspoken about PEDs and accusing Pacquiao? Perhaps because he had something to hide. After all, remember Pacquiao said Mayweather was only using the drug testing talk as an alibi not to fight him. And maybe this is why Mayweather refused to sign a waiver that would have paid Pacquiao $5 million for a failed drug test.